Avoiding LHR

Old Nov 8, 2023, 3:36 pm
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Avoiding LHR

Traveled to EDI through LHR last year and it was a disaster narrowly averted.
I'm thinking of going again next June
I'm thinking of using Amsterdam, Paris or Frankfurt (all suggested by AI Claude)
Thoughts on those airports?
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Old Nov 8, 2023, 4:53 pm
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All four are awful in differing ways. FRA is baffling in its complexity, AMS is operationally chaotic, CDG is horrible and LHR involves the disaster zone that is BA. So I suggest you either go on price or convenience or preferred alliance and not worry about the connecting airport.
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Old Nov 8, 2023, 5:00 pm
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You don't mention where you're traveling from. This is an important consideration.

Agree with lhrsfo's comments above - there is no clear winner out of any of those airports. You could also look at ZRH or DUB as possibilities, both are easier to connect at than any of these airports. DUB also has US pre-clearance which can be a factor if you're going to the US.
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Old Nov 8, 2023, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by baba montana
Traveled to EDI through LHR last year and it was a disaster narrowly averted.
I'm thinking of going again next June
I'm thinking of using Amsterdam, Paris or Frankfurt (all suggested by AI Claude)
Thoughts on those airports?
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How about Dublin?

Also, note that some U.S. carriers provide year-round or seasonal nonstop service to EDI from various U.S. gateways.
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Old Nov 8, 2023, 7:54 pm
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That is great info. I have TSA Pre so that would be great
btw - I'm in Montana USA - Big Sky Country
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Old Nov 8, 2023, 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by baba montana
That is great info. I have TSA Pre so that would be great
btw - I'm in Montana USA - Big Sky Country
You can find a list of carriers with nonstop service from the U.S. to EDI here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Airport

and from the U.S. to DUB here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Airport

In late June, I see that United offers one-stop options from Bozeman, Missoula, and Kalispell to Edinburgh; and two-stop options from Great Falls.
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Old Nov 8, 2023, 10:54 pm
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And in June, JetBlue will offer a one-stop Bozeman-Edinburgh option three days a week. If you plan to travel in regular Economy, the JetBlue Coach seat will have slightly greater seat pitch than UA's Coach seats. But UA will offer more recovery options in the event of irregular operations.
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Old Nov 9, 2023, 12:26 am
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Originally Posted by baba montana
That is great info. I have TSA Pre so that would be great
btw - I'm in Montana USA - Big Sky Country
Whatever airport you fly via there will be issues of some sort - even US ones.

Base your routing / airline decisions on things such as price and comfort not airport as youll spend far more time in a plane seat than at the airport.

(not 100% sure there is a pre check lane at DUB though (and thats only relevant when departing for the US) and even then see my comment above)

AMS for example may look attractive but there are only half dozen flights to EDI compared to a dozen or so on BA from LHR

3 flights ex FRA and 5 ex CDG.

(all based on google flights for a random date next May)
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Old Nov 9, 2023, 9:23 am
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MUC and ZRH are the best hubs in Europe IME. I do think AMS is the best of the big four and would pick it over FRA.

DUB is also a decent option.
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Last year was especially tricky in multiple European airports due, in particular, to exceptionally acute staffing issues post-covid. Things should be better this year, whichever airport you use (... famous last words...)
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All other things being equal (and they rarely are), I suspect that a single connection in the U.S. would be preferable to connecting in the U.S. and then connecting again in Europe. (There are no nonstop flights from Montana to Europe.)
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Old Nov 9, 2023, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by baba montana
Traveled to EDI through LHR last year and it was a disaster narrowly averted.
I'm thinking of going again next June
I'm thinking of using Amsterdam, Paris or Frankfurt (all suggested by AI Claude)
Thoughts on those airports?
A while back I was making a connection in Heathrow to go to Glasgow. Flight got cancelled and I had to wait around several hours.

Afterwards I realized that I could have taken the train and got there before the replacement flight left.
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Old Nov 9, 2023, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
MUC and ZRH are the best hubs in Europe IME. I do think AMS is the best of the big four and would pick it over FRA.

DUB is also a decent option.
Im sure MUC is a lovely airport but there is only one non stop to EDI a day (on easyJet). Ditto ZRH one flight a day in Edelweiss.

Of course there are more options available if you want to connect but that increases complexity and journey time.

And MUC via FRA-EDI on LH is restricted by the 3 FRA-EDI flights I referenced in my earlier post.

OP may want to avoid LHR but it still gives him the widest number of connection options.
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LHR is by far the most sensible connection in Europe. Otherwise, connect in North America.
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Originally Posted by malbik
A while back I was making a connection in Heathrow to go to Glasgow. Flight got cancelled and I had to wait around several hours.

Afterwards I realized that I could have taken the train and got there before the replacement flight left.
That is a valid point in favour of connecting at LHR - if it all goes completely wrong, you have easier alternatives, owing to the lack of water to cross.
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