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England & Wales: 2 Bus fare cap

Old Feb 18, 2023, 7:40 am
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England & Wales: 2 Bus fare cap

The government scheme where around 130 bus operators charge a maximum fare of 2 per journey has been extended to 30 June.

In my part of the world this is a significant saving, with some bus fares along the Jurassic Coast (Weymouth/Dorchester - Bridport - Lyme Regis - Axminster) reaching over 10 return, normally.

Lifeline for bus routes as 2 cap on local fares wins extension | Bus fares | The Guardian
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Old Feb 18, 2023, 9:36 am
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Thats good news indeed

I can see a point where its removed, but at least its helping out
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Old Feb 18, 2023, 2:26 pm
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It's a great thing in theory, like free bus travel for over-60s, but the devil is in the detail.

The detail in this case is that the bus operators participating had to prove a certain amount of sustainability of the routes in question, to make sure they're not just taking the money and running. Fair enough? Well, until the law of unintended consequences kicks in.

Case in point: my local Stagecoach garage. To qualify for the 2 bus fare funding, it pretty much withdrew all its rural routes. Same happened in Cambridgeshire, and I suspect all over the country. Loads of villages left completely isolated from lifeline services for hospital visits, school transport, signing on.

Thankfully, my local authority was able to get a small operator to step in for two of the key routes. The bus fare is still 7, but now it runs every two hours instead of every half hour, albeit not very reliably.
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Old Feb 18, 2023, 5:14 pm
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Its actually been good for one of my local companies - East Yorkshire have even taken to putting double deckers on single decker routes to have enough capacity... This has caused some minor issues driver wise with "little bus" and "big bus" concerns
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Old Feb 19, 2023, 5:09 am
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The 2 maximum charge is now permanent in Manchester (and I think Liverpool). Of course, that's now meant that services are reduced and even the shortest of journeys are 2 There's also a daily cap of 5.50 if you buy a travel card.
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Old Feb 22, 2023, 5:27 am
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Originally Posted by stut
It's a great thing in theory, like free bus travel for over-60s, but the devil is in the detail.

The detail in this case is that the bus operators participating had to prove a certain amount of sustainability of the routes in question, to make sure they're not just taking the money and running. Fair enough? Well, until the law of unintended consequences kicks in.

Case in point: my local Stagecoach garage. To qualify for the 2 bus fare funding, it pretty much withdrew all its rural routes. Same happened in Cambridgeshire, and I suspect all over the country. Loads of villages left completely isolated from lifeline services for hospital visits, school transport, signing on.

Thankfully, my local authority was able to get a small operator to step in for two of the key routes. The bus fare is still 7, but now it runs every two hours instead of every half hour, albeit not very reliably.
And in Dorset the buses in the summer are packed with concession card holders...
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Old Feb 22, 2023, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by stut
It's a great thing in theory, like free bus travel for over-60s, but the devil is in the detail.

The detail in this case is that the bus operators participating had to prove a certain amount of sustainability of the routes in question, to make sure they're not just taking the money and running. Fair enough? Well, until the law of unintended consequences kicks in.

Case in point: my local Stagecoach garage. To qualify for the 2 bus fare funding, it pretty much withdrew all its rural routes. Same happened in Cambridgeshire, and I suspect all over the country. Loads of villages left completely isolated from lifeline services for hospital visits, school transport, signing on.

Thankfully, my local authority was able to get a small operator to step in for two of the key routes. The bus fare is still 7, but now it runs every two hours instead of every half hour, albeit not very reliably.
I think Stagecoach would have withdrawn anyway. They did this last summer here.

Also the bus companies only get 80% of the fare difference. Which is better than nothing I suppose.
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