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Old May 24, 21, 2:35 pm
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Green list question

You must only have been in or travelled through a green list country or the UK, Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man in the previous 10 days.

The wording is interesting. I know I could go to Portugal for 10 days and then enter the UK under green list rules. (This is assuming Portugal will let US residents in.)

But based on the above, couldn't I just fly JFK-LIS and then ticket LIS-LON separately and fly onward immediately? I will have "been in" and "traveled through" a green list country. Not trying to be cute, just trying to figure out correct interpretation of the rule. Ideally, I'd love to go to Lisbon or Porto for a couple days and move on.
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Old May 24, 21, 2:56 pm
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No, the rules are based on everywhere you have been in the preceding 10 days so that wouldnt work. You would have to declare where you have been in the passenger locator form and you would be treated as an amber arrival in the UK. The only way to avoid this is to spend 10 days in a green country before arrival as you noted.
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Old May 24, 21, 4:51 pm
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Understood and thanks
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Old May 25, 21, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by saaveraward View Post
You must only have been in or travelled through a green list country or the UK, Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man in the previous 10 days.

The wording is interesting. I know I could go to Portugal for 10 days and then enter the UK under green list rules. (This is assuming Portugal will let US residents in.)

But based on the above, couldn't I just fly JFK-LIS and then ticket LIS-LON separately and fly onward immediately? I will have "been in" and "traveled through" a green list country. Not trying to be cute, just trying to figure out correct interpretation of the rule. Ideally, I'd love to go to Lisbon or Porto for a couple days and move on.
Did you miss the word ONLY?

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Old May 25, 21, 4:00 pm
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I'm so sick of all this! In my case, I have Iceland, Germany, Italy, France, UK in my June itin and anticipated that Europe would be open when I booked. I'm waiting maybe a day or more and then cancelling everything. Seems that some are at the cusp of announcing tourism open dates but all it takes is one hitch to derail. Sucks. I hate this type of gambling.,
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Old May 25, 21, 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Tailgater View Post
I'm so sick of all this! In my case, I have Iceland, Germany, Italy, France, UK in my June itin and anticipated that Europe would be open when I booked. I'm waiting maybe a day or more and then cancelling everything. Seems that some are at the cusp of announcing tourism open dates but all it takes is one hitch to derail. Sucks. I hate this type of gambling.,
Same. I've also booked a backup to go earlier if I have to do test and release for the UK. Worst case, I go 5 days early and take 2 extra corona tests and watch a gogglebox marathon on the telly. Total waste of time and money, but a nearly tourist free London could be interesting.

Or if UK adds more green list countries, just go there and chill out for 10 days before entering the UK.
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Old May 26, 21, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by Tailgater View Post
I'm so sick of all this! In my case, I have Iceland, Germany, Italy, France, UK in my June itin and anticipated that Europe would be open when I booked. I'm waiting maybe a day or more and then cancelling everything. Seems that some are at the cusp of announcing tourism open dates but all it takes is one hitch to derail. Sucks. I hate this type of gambling.,
Yes, it sucks. Everyone is absolutely sick of it.

I'm dealing with it by simply not booking any foreign trips for 2020: they're just not worth the uncertainty, frustration and hassle. I had a wonderful time in Edinburgh last week (almost no tourists, rock-bottom hotel rates and no trouble getting restaurant bookings) and am looking forward to a trip to north Wales next week.
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
No, the rules are based on everywhere you have been in the preceding 10 days so that wouldn’t work. You would have to declare where you have been in the passenger locator form and you would be treated as an amber arrival in the UK. The only way to avoid this is to spend 10 days in a green country before arrival as you noted.
In terms of defining the 10 days before arrival - is that 10 x 24 hour periods, or 10 days starting from the midnight after you arrive?

So if I arrive in the UK tomorrow evening from an amber country, then leave the UK almost immediately to a green list country, am I out of the woods the following Sunday evening (ten days later) or Monday (10 full days passing in between with part days not counting)?
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Originally Posted by Vgravity View Post
In terms of defining the 10 days before arrival - is that 10 x 24 hour periods, or 10 days starting from the midnight after you arrive?

So if I arrive in the UK tomorrow evening from an amber country, then leave the UK almost immediately to a green list country, am I out of the woods the following Sunday evening (ten days later) or Monday (10 full days passing in between with part days not counting)?
Hi,

I think to be safe, spend 10 full days in a green list country before returning to the UK

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Old May 26, 21, 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot View Post
Hi,

I think to be safe, spend 10 full days in a green list country before returning to the UK

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Thanks. I had thought it might be the case. Wondering if anyone had legal clarification, as it would be much more convenient to come back on the 10th day (rather than the 11th day after 10 full days).
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Thanks. I had thought it might be the case. Wondering if anyone had legal clarification, as it would be much more convenient to come back on the 10th day (rather than the 11th day after 10 full days).
I think the relevant bit of the law is https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/...ulation/9/made (Further requirements on arrivals from category 2 countries and territories)

9.(1) This regulation applies where a person (P)

(a)arrives in England from

(i)a category 2 country or territory,

(ii)within the common travel area or from a category 1 country or territory, and has at any time in the period beginning with the 10th day before the date of their arrival in England, departed from or transited through a category 2 country or territory,
(Category 1 = Green, Category 2 = Amber)
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Old May 26, 21, 11:10 am
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Annnnnnd.... France just put in a 10 day quarantine for UK arrivals. There goes my UK-France trip.

I assume assume there's 0 chance France goes green list for UK entry.
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Annnnnnd.... France just put in a 10 day quarantine for UK arrivals. There goes my UK-France trip.

I assume assume there's 0 chance France goes green list for UK entry.
wow. One step forward, ten back.
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/1509...s-from-june-7/

FINGERS CROSSED!!!
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Old May 28, 21, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by saaveraward View Post
i think you need to take in to account the track record of the source tho

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