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Old Nov 8, 2019, 1:38 am
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Originally Posted by JMcGP
Yesterday there was a trial operation of just using platform 7 - any views on how it went?
Looking at RealTimeTrains, it went pretty well - between 6am and just before 9pm, all trains used platform 7 and were on time, give or take a minute or so. Something happened after that, though - couple of cancellations, and all sorts of platforms. Not sure if that was disruption or engineering.
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Old Nov 8, 2019, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by Bohinjska Bistrica
Presumably this is due to the continued and increasing delays to Crossrail?
It's been announced today that Crossrail is delayed yet again, this time to opening "as soon as practicable in 2021". As well as more budget over-runs. The whole thing beggars belief.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by lhrsfo
The whole thing beggars belief.
Why, it's just a re-run of the eminently entertaining (not) spectacle that was the Jubilee Line extension. Complete with partial opening and all.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by stut
To make it a single platform operation (which kind of makes sense now Paddington is fully electrified and there is no longer a luggage service), the dwell time will be reduced from 20 to 7 minutes, which is obviously more efficient, but offers a lot less service recovery. I wonder if this will mean fewer units in operation too?
One of the benefits of the 2-platform operation was that, under normal operation, there was always a train there to board, which could be done at your leisure. Reducing to a 1-train 7-minute turnaround will mean that most passengers will now have to wait on the concourse/platform, and endure the scrum race when boarding is announced. Puts a bit of a dent in a premium-fare experience.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by Oxon Flyer
One of the benefits of the 2-platform operation was that, under normal operation, there was always a train there to board, which could be done at your leisure. Reducing to a 1-train 7-minute turnaround will mean that most passengers will now have to wait on the concourse/platform, and endure the scrum race when boarding is announced. Puts a bit of a dent in a premium-fare experience.
That said, if it's moving to a two-platform operation at T5, complete with the longer dwell time there, then you'll have an end to the wait, followed by the "no, get off the train, we need to do security stuff", followed by the scrum at that end. Swings and roundabouts, perhaps?
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Old Nov 12, 2019, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by stut
That said, if it's moving to a two-platform operation at T5, complete with the longer dwell time there, then you'll have an end to the wait, followed by the "no, get off the train, we need to do security stuff", followed by the scrum at that end. Swings and roundabouts, perhaps?
Quite so. Also if you have time to wait, Paddington has a lot more pleasant places to wait than the HEX platforms at LHR. There's no cafe, newsagent, etc, at LHR.
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Old Jan 31, 2020, 10:35 am
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Quick data point from this evening, both the 1710 and the 1725 departed 5 minutes late. I guess the knock on effect is minimal since they still depart every 15 minutes but it looked quite rushed between one train and the next.

ETA: someone has had to go through the trouble of removing all the purple round stickers on platform 6, can't have been fun!

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Old Feb 1, 2020, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by alex67500
Quick data point from this evening, both the 1710 and the 1725 departed 5 minutes late. I guess the knock on effect is minimal since they still depart every 15 minutes but it looked quite rushed between one train and the next.

ETA: someone has had to go through the trouble of removing all the purple round stickers on platform 6, can't have been fun!
It's going to be an interesting weekend and the Piccadilly line isn't running to Heathrow. Travelling tomorrow PM so I guess it's going to be rammed and lots of lost people looking for the platform!
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Old Feb 4, 2020, 8:26 am
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Wait - are they down to one platform, or just one track? IIRC each platform serves two tracks, one on each side. From the context of the discussion it sounds like they're down to one track though, is that right? Should still be doable with 15 minute headways, but it's a bit tight as has been mentioned.
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Old Feb 4, 2020, 8:34 am
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The way you describe it, yes it was always one central concrete block between 2 tracks, but it is labelled as platforms 6 and 7 (one on each side). HEX trains now only use platform 7, so single track, and the turnaround has to be a lot faster for each train.
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Old Feb 4, 2020, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by ijgordon
Wait - are they down to one platform, or just one track? IIRC each platform serves two tracks, one on each side. From the context of the discussion it sounds like they're down to one track though, is that right? Should still be doable with 15 minute headways, but it's a bit tight as has been mentioned.
In UK terminology, platform refers to the platform face, and so is used in the same way as track is elsewhere.

Though this gets confusing at stations like Cambridge and Edinburgh where you've got multiple platforms on a single platform face.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by alex67500
The way you describe it, yes it was always one central concrete block between 2 tracks, but it is labelled as platforms 6 and 7 (one on each side). HEX trains now only use platform 7, so single track, and the turnaround has to be a lot faster for each train.
HEX trains only use one platform Mon-Fri. It seems on weekends they use Platform 6 too - at least they were last Sunday when I went through. As expected because of the Piccadilly line closure that weekend the first carriages were rammed but with 7 minutes to go before departure I walked up to far end and there were loads of seats. Perfect for getting of at T5 nearest the exit.
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