Seems like aviation would be hard hit on FT terms. flight personnel will not be licensed to run/operate/maintain planes; uk flight agreement to the EU will lapse; and the ATC will not be able to communicate.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...no-deal-brexit

there are quite separate areas of concern. One is air services agreements (ASA), some of which the UK holds under the EU umbrella. I'm guessing that someone is beavering away on independent negotiations with states with no dedicated ASA with the UK. It's probably solvable in the time remaining.

Perhaps more troublesome are the various safety/security/licensing arrangements we have among EU states. I don't believe the EU will be bloody-minded about any of this, but the UK might be relying too heavily on goodwill in an area where good intentions aren't nearly enough. Where rules apply, the EU is as much a stickler about their correct implementation as is the UK. Usually.

I wouldn't trust any Guardian article to objectively report anything relating to Brexit

Relevance? The articles quotes a government report.

Assuming Brexit goes through and with no agreement reached (hard Brexit) as is seemingly more likely all the time, it would be wise to expect the rule of 'unexpected consequences' will apply in all aspects. This particular one may be one of the least troublesome. LOL

The UK may well become a 'No Fly Zone' on my personal list for some time to come following Brexit. My wife is ex-NHS upper management and still has contacts there. What she is hearing is that it is total chaos already in regards to the loss of EU staff leaving to return to their home countries due to Brexit. The irony is that many voting in favour of Brexit bought in to the belief that more money would be available for the NHS and that that would in turn mean improved healthcare. In fact, having more money even assuming that were the case, is of no use whatsoever if the doctors and nurses leave the country. https://www.politico.eu/article/nhs-...ors-migration/

Or those who bought into the 'foreigners are taking our jobs, keep them out' reasoning for voting in favour of Brexit. I wonder what they are going to say when they can't afford to buy fruit anymore as the price goes up when supply simply cannot meet demand because there is no one to pick the fruit. Only 1% of fruit pickers in the UK are Brits! All the rest are 'foreigners' who come to work for the season at a job Brits simply don't want to do. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8469806.html

I think those in favour of Brexit are going to learn some hard truths soon and flying hiccups will be least of their problems.

but but but BLUE PASSPORTS!

It will be an absolute non-event. Because business says so and they will guide the hands of both the UK and the EU to come to the correct conclusion.

Not sure if you're being serious with this comment? If so, I'm afraid you're whistling past the graveyard.

This chap Richard North has been astutely commenting on all aspects of Brexit since the earliest days. As it happens, he has just today published an update on the ramifications for air travel.

Brexit: the impact on aviation

Folks, a gentle nudge to ensure we keep this thread on-topic and relevant to the forum: the potential impact of a no-deal Brexit on air travel in/from the UK and Ireland. If the topic broadens, it's more suitable for OMNI/PR.

Thanks!

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Totally serious. If it goes the way he describes on March 30th you win, if it all carries on pretty much as it does today I win. Strangely, you want me to win.

I'll see you in March.

The EU raising the possibility of trouble today:

Juncker: British planes may be stopped from landing in EU if Brexit talks fail

No worries, GregW!

'It'll be OK on the day!'
'The EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU!'
'See you in March!'

It does seem that the CAA won't be in a position to take over from EASA come April, certainly, Rolls Royce has moved its engine certification to German because of this. Given the CAA will have oversight of all UK aircraft, airlines and airports, will other countries accept their competence?

It seems Heathrow think this is a possibility https://www.ft.com/content/ceb7d6ce-...f-a6a2f7bca546
Borrowing �1 billion is quite a serious step.