The Shard restaurants & bar security?
May 20, 2018, 10:56 am
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The Shard restaurants & bar security?
We went there for a colleagues work leaving drinks, but because we refused to go through security and have our privacy violated, we was not allowed in. Instead we went to another bar nearby which did have all this stupid security theater. reading reviews on Tripadvisor, I noticed that some people are not searched, maybe they slipped a tenner into the security guards pocket?
May 20, 2018, 1:23 pm
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London has been living with and adapting to terrorism for decades. There are compromises with privacy that go with that adaptation. The Shard is a high profile building so of course you can expect some screening..
Exactly what do you suggest they do....?
Exactly what do you suggest they do....?
May 20, 2018, 2:33 pm
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Curious exactly what privacy would be violated by a quick metal scan to show you're carrying neither firearm nor explosive?
May 20, 2018, 2:56 pm
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What specific data were you being asked to provide and what do they do with that data? If this is simply stepping through a mag or being "wanded" I'm not sure I understand the concern.
May 20, 2018, 3:54 pm
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I've not been up to Aqua or anything else up there in a while and don't remember specifically what security arrangements they had, but usually it's just a quick bag check and maybe a metal detector for most high-profile spots in London. Definitely nothing as intrusive as an airport. OP's complaint seems like a lot of fuss about nothing, but whatever suits. I'm sure the spurned bar didn't notice the loss of business.
May 20, 2018, 6:01 pm
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You really won't experience that at non-airport security. I'm anti security theatre as much as anyone else, but I've found security checks at sports venues, bars, and public transport to be very reasonable.
May 20, 2018, 6:33 pm
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Two totally unfounded accusations. You make yourself look petty and ridiculous.
Have you contacted the management of the shard to make them aware of your issues?? Probably not because it's just easier to post here.
They even say on their website about security Did you bother to read that?
Have you contacted the management of the shard to make them aware of your issues?? Probably not because it's just easier to post here.
They even say on their website about security Did you bother to read that?
May 20, 2018, 8:37 pm
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And yet, according to your profile, you seem happy to provide personal data to several airlines as part of participation in their FF programmes, and also subject yourself to airport security around the world.
May 20, 2018, 10:52 pm
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Bless
May 20, 2018, 11:13 pm
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On this basis, the OP will now never be able to visit a museum in London or attend a professional football match in England or Wales.
The fact is that high profile buildings and events are potential terrorist targets. It’s possible to build a device that would cause considerable damage in something small and seemingly insignificant that would easily fit in a bag or coat pocket. X-rays and/or bag searches are a proportionate response to the risk - what is more important is that the security personnel are trained to recognise explosive devices, not that we are held up for a few seconds.
The fact is that high profile buildings and events are potential terrorist targets. It’s possible to build a device that would cause considerable damage in something small and seemingly insignificant that would easily fit in a bag or coat pocket. X-rays and/or bag searches are a proportionate response to the risk - what is more important is that the security personnel are trained to recognise explosive devices, not that we are held up for a few seconds.
May 21, 2018, 3:41 am
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PS your location is "UK"? Really? Because I´m surprised at your reaction, given that there´s not very many countries, certainly not in Europe, where security is as tight as in the UK and has been for decades (remember the "Troubles" and the "Ring of Steel" in the City?).
May 21, 2018, 5:20 am
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I really don't understand your reluctance to go through a simple security check? I have never, as you so delicately put it, "had my balls fondled" by any security agent either in an airport or outside.
Do you have any other reason for not wanting it or do you have something to hide?
If I was a security guard, there would be few things as suspicious as someone slipping me a tenner to avoid a search.
Do you have any other reason for not wanting it or do you have something to hide?
If I was a security guard, there would be few things as suspicious as someone slipping me a tenner to avoid a search.