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Old Sep 22, 2014, 1:02 pm
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The Brits I know call it the "Daily Fail."
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Old Sep 22, 2014, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF
The Brits I know call it the "Daily Fail."
At times the "Daily Heil" is more apt.


Think lots of articles about "middle class angst" and how the country isn't what it was (though it's never been what they think it was).

This headline generator is quite fun. And often accurate.
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Old Sep 22, 2014, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by UKtravelbear
At times the "Daily Heil" is more apt.
This headline generator is quite fun. And often accurate.
Well, has the Euro given Britain's swans cancer? I think we have a right to know.
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Well frankly, I'm absolutely disgusted. Incensed even. It's just that, at the moment, I'm not quite sure what at...
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Old Sep 22, 2014, 4:12 pm
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It also specialises in hypocrisy.

Diatribes against the threats of pedophilia, while running articles alongside them which highlight how 14 year old girls are "blooming"

And just because it's still funny, if a bit outdated. A brief summary of 'who reads the papers' from Jim Hacker

Hacker: Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers: The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country; The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; The Financial Times is read by people who own the country; The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country; And The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
Sir Humphrey: Oh and Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?
Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.
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Old Sep 22, 2014, 5:15 pm
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Jenbel,

see my link above
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Old Sep 22, 2014, 6:41 pm
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Thanks for all the replies everyone. Very interesting.

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Also astonishing how popular the DM website is in the United States. I believe it is the most visited news website in the world, outdoing The New York Times sadly enough.

The Mail Online is huge in the US even though I think a lot of the subtle voice/tone/attitude stuff is lost on US audiences, and the DM covers many UK celebs who are unknown on US shores.
I actually heard about it while in the US and talking with Americans; though the attitude there seemed to compare the Daily Mail more to a "TMZ for news", while readers here seem to suggest there is a more serious undertone to the DM.

Does this mean I'll have to read it to judge for myself?!
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Old Sep 22, 2014, 8:37 pm
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Was it not stut himself that described the Daily Mail as a newspaper that specialises in trolling its own readers?

By extension, the readers are presumably people that wake up in the morning wanting to be trolled.

The Daily Mail moral underground map is hilarious and gives you an idea of what the paper is about without having to read it (My Uncle John reads it, we are having a family meeting in October to discuss composting him)

Some articles are completely unfathomable. What could they possibly have against Fiona Apple? I am sure she is just thrown into the mix to troll US readers given she is pretty much unknown in the UK.
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Old Sep 23, 2014, 2:04 am
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Originally Posted by CX HK
I actually heard about it while in the US and talking with Americans; though the attitude there seemed to compare the Daily Mail more to a "TMZ for news", while readers here seem to suggest there is a more serious undertone to the DM.

Does this mean I'll have to read it to judge for myself?!
That's quite understandable, given the online content (and particularly the content customised for non-UK audiences).

Here's quite an interesting comment from Peter Oborne, taken from the suprisingly good series Newswipe, on the relationship between the tabloid press (in this case the Sun) and government:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L6U0ZQE32E

(I disagree with the premise of the video title on YouTube. Note that this is a relationship between a right-wing tabloid and a nominally left-wing government.)

I find it quite fascinating how effective these newspapers manage to be - not only in engaging in such political manipulation, but in providing a real-life inspired soap opera that gets people tuning in in their droves on a daily basis.
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Old Sep 23, 2014, 6:23 am
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Sadly, my (elderly) mother is among them, and is regularly keen to pass on the latest nugget gleaned from said Fish&Chip wrapper, such as that everything in Britain went wrong once the welfare state was enacted, that we should return to the Workhouse as a solution for unemployment, disabled children should be euthanised at birth, women should not work (as they are taking a job away from some poor man, and anyway, should be at home, washing dishes) and that all of the country (nay, the world's) problems are due to "Asians" (though, she appears to be somewhat geographically challenged on this point as "Asia" appears, to her, to span at least three of the continents that I'm aware of). sadly she lives in one of the few environments within the British Isles where, due to lack of exposure to actual diversity, such opinions can continue to flourish without challenge.

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I think it's only fair to also point out that the paper's owner in the 1930s - a certain Lord Rothermere - was a personal friend of that lovely Mr Hitler and Mr Mussolini and it printed many editorials that were highly sympathetic towards them.

Some of us think that it's basic editorial policy is largely unchanged since....
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Old Sep 23, 2014, 6:29 am
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Ah yes, it was an "interesting" paper in those days:



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Old Sep 23, 2014, 6:57 am
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Perhaps worth noting that as well as the Mail, the Mirror also ran a few pieces that were favourable to the Blackshirts - this is a good piece by the media commentator Roy Greenslade exploring that lesser known fact.
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Old Sep 23, 2014, 7:09 am
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Interesting article.

There were certainly a number of wealthy pro-Nazi figures in Britain in the 30s. Unsurprising, I suppose, that this would filter down through media ownership.
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Old Sep 23, 2014, 7:52 am
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I've only bought it a few times. Many many years ago when they were doing some promotion where you had to collect vouchers to get something for nowt. IIRC they were running a story at the same time about the Brits becoming a nation of freeloaders.

Other than that the only time I have read it is when flying BA and it was free. Not sure why people get so uptight about it to be honest it's not as if it's the only newspaper out there.

As for a DM stereotype I haven't a clue to be honest. I never knew one person who read it on a regular basis.
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Old Sep 23, 2014, 7:53 am
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I was having a drink with a Daily Mail journalist in August. He claimed that almost everybody in the UK with access to a computer reads dailymail.co.uk on the basis of unique hits that their site receives from the UK each day.

So everybody is a Mail reader!
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