irishguy28

OAK will probably be coming eventually...they will fly there from both Oslo and Stockholm starting in May.

HIDDY

No it was the other two....purely because they are already well served and low fares out of peak season can already be had anyway.

I seem to remember MOL saying that the price of fuel rocketing had put paid to any notion they might have had of starting long haul services.

Cymro

"Premium" needs to be seriously cheaper unless this is flat pricing or maybe for one-ways.

It's the same price as an ex-AMS business fare and noticeably more than most premium economy except at very high demand periods. I'm sure it's a good product but it's not different enough from premium economy to justify the pricing.

As for not needing a Saturday away - well that is true but this route doesn't fly every day so that makes a difference too.

irishguy28

Well...perhaps if LGW was their home base then they may have selected other destinations - but LAX and JFK are already destinations from their Oslo and Stockholm bases.

csutter

True, but you could always get a car

Ah, but I was talking about JFK not LAX - you quoted Raffles in your post who was referring to JFK so I thought you meant that

I fares LCY/LHR to JFK/EWR routinely go for ~£1,500 when sales are on, which is even more often than the general "all destinations" premium cabin sales.

UKtravelbear

Is it me or have they not included APD in the fares or are they somehow (probably not) exempt from applying it or have they included it in the base fare (unusual if they do)

I was looking at New York and the 'taxes' are described as 'taxes account for' £124.30 and described as 'airport surcharge' with a separate £50 for fuel and these are the same for both Economy and Premium.

Premium should be attracting the higher rate of APD (£135)

callum9999

Just because they use stupid press releases for free marketing doesn't therefore mean that none of them are true. If that was the case then they would all be ignored anyway. Not that it's only random press releases that state this - O'Leary himself brings it up in more formal settings like proper interviews etc.

I'm well aware they haven't got suitable aircraft on order, which according to them is the only major issue - finding twin aisle aircraft cheap enough. Perhaps using the word "soon" was too ambiguous but I see no logical reason why they couldn't start this decade.

Though regardless, as I said, Norwegian's business model is not identical to Ryanair's.

BerksFlyer

I have used Norwegian twice, once to OSL and once from AES. For a budget airline they're actually quite good. The clean leather seats are comfy, the interior is subtle and unlike most budgets the cabin crew don't continually bother you to either buy stuff or donate to their charity by waving a tin in your face.

If I was going to a destination they serve and there was a reasonable saving over the BA PE fare I'd give it a go. Last time I paid for my own ticket to go trans-Atlantic (Oct '12) I paid £800 return for multi city in PE. The big advantage is that I tend not to take long holidays and therefore have no need for checked luggage, the downside is LGW rather than LHR.

Having already used them I already have a FF account, albeit virtually worthless at present, and given my regular trips to Norway the thought of bagging free flights there on the back of a USA holiday is quite nice!

Overall I think this is good news and I hope it lasts, or even grows.

callum9999

£124.30 is clearly far more than the Airports charge though so presumably it's just included in that.

Jetstreamer

I flew their 787 from OSL-LGW a few months ago in the premium cabin and it wasn't bad and would certainly be ok for a Westbound transatlantic. IFE was every bit as good as BA's. I tried sitting in their Y seat and that was a bit tight but apparently they have the same pitch as BA in the 787 which is also tight.

I think they might struggle on these routes, especially JFK given the huge competition. I wonder if AA might consider a LGW-JFK 757/767 service to wipe Norwegian out? They did this with STN a few years ago to get rid of Maxjet and Eos...

BerksFlyer

Hiw did the premium seats on the Norwegian 787 compare to PE with BA?

revan

their fares from Oslo/Stockholm to/from JFK are even cheaper.

Flying Xmas eve you can get a one way JFK>OSL for £90!

Polomarc

Wow, that is what a friend paid for 3 people (Burger, fries + Beer) at TGI's in Oslo

UKtravelbear

That might explain the economy figure but the premium seat should be £60 odd quid more to reflect the double APD of economy

Swiss Tony

I'm surprised they don't pay people to be on that flight. Norwegians do the Christmas thing on Dec 24th whilst Americans do it on Dec 25th. Mind you, if you do want to miss the whole shebang.....