EU delay compensation with Turkish
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I can see there's a danger seeming smug about this. There are probably denials of compensation, but I imagine that's TK following its interpretation of rules on the causes of delay.
And I did overhear one snippy argument between a passenger and an agent at the lounge desk: he was saying that although the passenger's incoming flight was delayed, he'd still had over one hour to make the connection: so rebooking and a room for the night was (said the agent) a pretty generous outcome - and one the passenger was very welcome to walk away from....
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#17
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I am also trying to get my flight delay compensation from TK.
TXL-IST-ATL: MX delay at TXL--options?
Having never done this before, I made the claim via the website feedback form, following the format of the letters one finds online. Over two weeks later, I finally received a very strange reply.
It completely ignores the 600 euro claim, acknowledges the cancellation due to "damage during flight operations," notes that I was re-routed, and says I can "also" send in food receipts for reimbursement. Never once mentions my actual claim--doesn't deny it or accept it.
Am I writing the wrong place? Or is this just a stalling tactic? I responded by asking them to please either confirm or deny my claim under EU 261/2004, so that I could forward it to the proper EU authorities if necessary.
I see here discussion of similar Turkish laws. It was my understanding that all airlines that operated flights out of the EU were required to conform to this regulation. Am I wrong about that? Or is there some other place I should be going to make a claim under Turkish law?
TXL-IST-ATL: MX delay at TXL--options?
Having never done this before, I made the claim via the website feedback form, following the format of the letters one finds online. Over two weeks later, I finally received a very strange reply.
It completely ignores the 600 euro claim, acknowledges the cancellation due to "damage during flight operations," notes that I was re-routed, and says I can "also" send in food receipts for reimbursement. Never once mentions my actual claim--doesn't deny it or accept it.
Am I writing the wrong place? Or is this just a stalling tactic? I responded by asking them to please either confirm or deny my claim under EU 261/2004, so that I could forward it to the proper EU authorities if necessary.
I see here discussion of similar Turkish laws. It was my understanding that all airlines that operated flights out of the EU were required to conform to this regulation. Am I wrong about that? Or is there some other place I should be going to make a claim under Turkish law?
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Following up on my comment above: After 3 weeks, I finally received a response (with an apology for the tardiness). The message says TK has issued me an "electronic miscellaneous document (EMD)" with a value of 600 euros. It's just contained within the email: an EMD number, my name, the amount, and the date of issue. No formal attached certificate or document. It goes on to say that I can use it for a ticket by going to a Turkish sales office. Then, "In case of requesting refund as cash, we kindly request you to contact with the related sales office before visiting." I suppose this is to arrange for a check? Operating hours at ATL are listed on the website and are basically just the five evenings that they have a flight. But they actually list a local phone number, so I'm going to call. I have a feeling the locals won't know what the heck I'm talking about, but we'll see.
Stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
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Following up on my comment above: After 3 weeks, I finally received a response (with an apology for the tardiness). The message says TK has issued me an "electronic miscellaneous document (EMD)" with a value of 600 euros. It's just contained within the email: an EMD number, my name, the amount, and the date of issue. No formal attached certificate or document. It goes on to say that I can use it for a ticket by going to a Turkish sales office. Then, "In case of requesting refund as cash, we kindly request you to contact with the related sales office before visiting." I suppose this is to arrange for a check? Operating hours at ATL are listed on the website and are basically just the five evenings that they have a flight. But they actually list a local phone number, so I'm going to call. I have a feeling the locals won't know what the heck I'm talking about, but we'll see.
Stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
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Update: I found an email address along with the sales office info on the TK website. I emailed a brief inquiry, received a reply the same day. They offered 1) refund via a debit card, or 2) come to the TK desk at the airport for cash, or 3) they could cut a check and mail it, taking 4-6 weeks. The first one sounded odd (I didn't know you could send cash via a debit card), but I took that. She asked for a photo of my ID and debit card, and the same day emailed to say it was processed and I should expect to see the funds in 3-5 days.
I'll update when it arrives.
I'll update when it arrives.
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. . . a-a-a-n-d the money is in my account as of today. Remarkable. Once I finally got TK to acknowledge I was due the compensation, it really took no time.
So for future travelers who have this issue, here a summary of the steps I followed.
1. Use the TK website feedback form. Claim compensation based on EU 261/2004. Provide ticket #, conf. #, and briefly outline circumstances. Include originally scheduled arrival time, and actual re-scheduled arrival time.
2. Be persistent if they try to stonewall you. They won't respond in a week as they promise.
3. When you get an email confirming payment with an EMD #, look up the nearest sales office on the TK website. Contact them to arrange the actual payment.
Voila! You've saved the 20% commission an agency would have charged.
So for future travelers who have this issue, here a summary of the steps I followed.
1. Use the TK website feedback form. Claim compensation based on EU 261/2004. Provide ticket #, conf. #, and briefly outline circumstances. Include originally scheduled arrival time, and actual re-scheduled arrival time.
2. Be persistent if they try to stonewall you. They won't respond in a week as they promise.
3. When you get an email confirming payment with an EMD #, look up the nearest sales office on the TK website. Contact them to arrange the actual payment.
Voila! You've saved the 20% commission an agency would have charged.
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DFW-FRA-IST-KHI (first segment on LH, all the rest on TK)
IST-KHI flight got initially delayed by 1 hour and once it took off it diverted back to Istanbul after 1.5 hours inflight. Eventually they arranged a new aircraft and I arrived at my destination 6 hours later.
Does EU compensation rules apply to this trip?
The award flight was booked via CSR, can I claim anything from them?
IST-KHI flight got initially delayed by 1 hour and once it took off it diverted back to Istanbul after 1.5 hours inflight. Eventually they arranged a new aircraft and I arrived at my destination 6 hours later.
Does EU compensation rules apply to this trip?
The award flight was booked via CSR, can I claim anything from them?
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DFW-FRA-IST-KHI (first segment on LH, all the rest on TK)
IST-KHI flight got initially delayed by 1 hour and once it took off it diverted back to Istanbul after 1.5 hours inflight. Eventually they arranged a new aircraft and I arrived at my destination 6 hours later.
Does EU compensation rules apply to this trip?
The award flight was booked via CSR, can I claim anything from them?
IST-KHI flight got initially delayed by 1 hour and once it took off it diverted back to Istanbul after 1.5 hours inflight. Eventually they arranged a new aircraft and I arrived at my destination 6 hours later.
Does EU compensation rules apply to this trip?
The award flight was booked via CSR, can I claim anything from them?
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Your flight does not originate in EU nor is TK an EU carrier, so EU Reg. 261/04 does not apply.
Also it sounds if reverting back to IST was caused by extraordinary circumstances.
I can't see you getting anywhere with this - sorry.
Also it sounds if reverting back to IST was caused by extraordinary circumstances.
I can't see you getting anywhere with this - sorry.
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And while EU261/04 does not apply, Turkey has a similar consumer protection law which does. OP, please reference https://turkishairlines.ssl.cdn.sdlm...90722479CP.pdf for more information,
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OP cannot claim EC 261/2004 compensation. But, that is not the end of it. Turkey has a similar scheme and OP may claim under that. Note that I said "similar" and not "same". Read it carefully.