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Old Apr 5, 2014, 2:03 am
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Starting 1 June 2014 Miles&Smiles earning/burning rates are changing.

Here are some of the key changes:

Earning:
- TK earning rates depend on the fare class
- All TK fares will earn, including promotions
- Classic plus members earn more on Comfort and Business class fares
- Elite and elite plus members earn less on business class (175% for C & D or 160% for K & J, previously 200% regardless of booking class) and less on A comfort class booking class (125% instead of 150%) and more on U,O comfort class booking class (160% instead of 150%)
- Domestic flights earn more

Burning:
- High/low seasons have been abandoned
- Burning rates are the same for TK and Star Alliance carriers
- TK promise more capacity controlled award tickets
- One way tickets available at half the rate
- Regions have been revised
- Companion award is now 75% the cost of a regular award, previously 50%
- Miles needed for awards slightly increased (e.g. Europe2 to Far East in Business return: old: 70,000 now 90,000 miles)

Upgrades:
- All TK economy/comfort fares can be now be used for upgrades
- Economy > Business upgrades require half the miles of a full award

Award table has been updated and revised (no changes in some regions, significant changes in others).

What we don't know:
- Will status qualification levels change?
- Will Star Alliance earning rates change?

More info: http://www.new-milesandsmiles.com/
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 2:40 am
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Significant updates to the M&S programme starting 1 June, good or bad?

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-at...l-come-with-it

Changes are seldom good for us passengers, the first thing I noticed, companion ticket increasing from 50% to 70% of required miles...
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 3:16 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-at...l-come-with-it

Changes are seldom good for us passengers, the first thing I noticed, companion ticket increasing from 50% to 70% of required miles...
Less status miles on lower fares is a key change.
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by dabee69
Less status miles on lower fares is a key change.
Indeed, it's quite a big change..
I didn't see any date on the announcement, does anyone have an idea on when these changes could be implemented ?
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 5:44 am
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Originally Posted by dabee69
Less status miles on lower fares is a key change.
yes, it is and the worst that we could expect
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 6:37 am
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I have a very bad feeling about this
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 6:41 am
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There are plenty of good things mentioned as well though. The program has been VERY generous when it comes to status and miles, so I'm not surprised.
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 7:05 am
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I've been waiting for this day! Yes, the lower miles for lower booking classes is the key one. Depending on the exact accrual rates this could be a medium to large blow. I can't see a date for these changes?
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by mrblanco
I can't see a date for these changes?
Let's hope it's not too soon! I was expecting to earn a few miles and requalify on discounted Y in may.. though I fear it'll be too late by then !

It is true, though, that M&S was very generous with the 100% earning on almost all Y flying. Let's just hope that the blow is not too strong.. and that they wait until end of may?
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 7:44 am
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The news make it seem though comfort class is here to stay though which I am happy about
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 7:49 am
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Mmh... the "earn when you fly" section on the M&S website is currently unavailable. Somebody updating it as we speak? I guess the changes could be effective immediately.
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 8:05 am
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I just checked, seems it's still there (and accessible):
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-in...k-hava-yollari
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 8:11 am
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I see this as very bad news. If they go down the same road as Lufthansa by introducing an earning chart for each booking class, it's bye bye TK for me.

Also I'm guessing that the cheap 35K one-way award tickets in Biz to USA and Asia will be gone.
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by LH4116
I see this as very bad news.
I have the same feeling...
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 8:19 am
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Was expected as TK grew the way it did. It wants to reward its high spend customers. Others will follow. Just like LH is rewarding those that only use its own flights rather than Star partners.
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Old Feb 28, 2014, 8:20 am
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The page has been updated

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-in...k-hava-yollari
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