https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/fi...info-guide.pdf
5. You must declare any fruits, vegetables, plants, insects, meats or meat products, dairy products, animals or animals/wildlife products, disease agents, cell cultures, snails, or soil. If you have visited a farm/ranch/pasture outside the United States, please let the CBP officer know. No broad category of FOOD. |
Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 30113111)
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/fi...info-guide.pdf
5. You must declare any fruits, vegetables, plants, insects, meats or meat products, dairy products, animals or animals/wildlife products, disease agents, cell cultures, snails, or soil. If you have visited a farm/ranch/pasture outside the United States, please let the CBP officer know. No broad category of FOOD. The GE kiosks, at least the ones that I've used at LAX, JFK and MIA in the past two years or so, do list the catchall "food" category in addition to all the other specific items. |
Originally Posted by richarddd
(Post 30112320)
In that case, "anything you can put into your mouth" doesn't clarify anything.
You're just saying food is food. |
Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 30113111)
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/fi...info-guide.pdf
5. You must declare any fruits, vegetables, plants, insects, meats or meat products, dairy products, animals or animals/wildlife products, disease agents, cell cultures, snails, or soil. If you have visited a farm/ranch/pasture outside the United States, please let the CBP officer know. No broad category of FOOD. I don't think most folks read the above list and realize that ramen seasoning packets, gum, breath mints, tea, chocolate candy and cookies have all been challenged and have to be declared. (Some ramen packets have 'meat' product, tea in any form is 'plant matter' as well as 'food', and a lot of chocolate candy contains milk (dairy product) Some candy and cookies have raisins (fruit) in them. |
Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer
(Post 30112732)
I guess we are at "I don't know what food is but I know it when I see it" :) |
5. You must declare any fruits, vegetables, plants, insects, meats or meat products, dairy products, animals or animals/wildlife products, disease agents, cell cultures, snails, or soil. If you have visited a farm/ranch/pasture outside the United States, please let the CBP officer know.
This is what was listed at ORD last week when we came through. I read it twice to make sure it didn't list food as we had some chocolate. Didn't see food so I checked no. |
Originally Posted by davie355
(Post 30113599)
+1, not to mention there's a cultural element as to whether certain things are edible or not.
Anyway, I'd be a lot more comfortable arguing "you're telling me my failure to declare toothpaste violates the food declaration rule?" than arguing "you're telling me that my failure to declare the protein bar I bought in the US and came back with violates the rule?". |
As others have stated
Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 30114676)
Even with this narrow and out-dated definition, there's room for confusion.
I don't think most folks read the above list and realize that ramen seasoning packets, gum, breath mints, tea, chocolate candy and cookies have all been challenged and have to be declared. (Some ramen packets have 'meat' product, tea in any form is 'plant matter' as well as 'food', and a lot of chocolate candy contains milk (dairy product) Some candy and cookies have raisins (fruit) in them. The kiosks now specifically use the word “food” - At least the kiosk at Halifax Canada pre-clearance. |
Originally Posted by rkb2530
(Post 30116111)
This is what was listed at ORD last week when we came through. I read it twice to make sure it didn't list food as we had some chocolate. Didn't see food so I checked no.
I maintain my position that dry/packaged goods aren't in the spirit of "food." This is only my personal position (although obviously also the position of many frontline officers). |
Thr word food have been on GE kiosks for 2-3 years if not more. Seems like the posts on this thread is just repeating points made earlier. |
Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 30156293)
Thr word food have been on GE kiosks for 2-3 years if not more. Seems like the posts on this thread is just repeating points made earlier. Given that the maximum penalty is $60,000 per violation (not that it is routinely imposed) along with GE revocation, the number of people who think it's fun to play too cute is interesting. |
I'm new to GE and have yet to use the GE kiosks.
However I've used the APC kiosks several times (primarily at YVR) and to the best of my recollection the list does not contain the generic term "food" but very specific categories of food such as meats, fruit etc. So I'm finding it interesting that the GE kiosks are like the blue forms in that regard. |
Originally Posted by blue_can
(Post 30156479)
So I'm finding it interesting that the GE kiosks are like the blue forms in that regard.
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Originally Posted by davie355
(Post 30127122)
There is one potential issue with this approach. What happens if the CBP Officer at the exit point asks, "Do you have any food." You say yes, Officer says how come it's not declared, you say it's chocolate and the screen didn't mention it -- if the Officer really has it out for you, you may be lost, as there is plenty of written verbiage indicating "all food" requires declaration.
I maintain my position that dry/packaged goods aren't in the spirit of "food." This is only my personal position (although obviously also the position of many frontline officers). I am not sure what the “spirit of food” means. Dry packaged goods can certainly have insect infestations and could be problematic. |
Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 30156293)
Thr word food have been on GE kiosks for 2-3 years if not more. Seems like the posts on this thread is just repeating points made earlier. I declared something just last week. I barely got to say “candy and snacks” before the agent said “welcome home” and waved us along (the new system without the agent after baggage claim). |
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