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mattfusf Jan 2, 12 7:20 pm

Global Entry Kiosks Declarations and Food Questions
 
If I return to the US with souvenirs (less than the $800) allowance, do I automatically get the "X" on my receipt and have to speak to a CBP agent, or is the kiosk allow you to enter items that you may have purchased?

Thanks

Matt

chollie Jan 2, 12 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by mattfusf (Post 17734591)
If I return to the US with souvenirs (less than the $800) allowance, do I automatically get the "X" on my receipt and have to speak to a CBP agent, or is the kiosk allow you to enter items that you may have purchased?

Thanks

Matt

The kiosk questions are much simpler and less detailed the the paper form you fill out. You don't itemize items. IIRC, there were four questions on one screen. Don't recall the exact questions, but they are yes-no answers (ie, one of them might have been 'are you bringing back goods worth more than $800). I think one of the questions might be about food, so if you answer that 'yes', you'll get an 'X'.

mattfusf Jan 2, 12 7:32 pm

Thanks, didn't want to get hung up over a few t-shirts, postcards, and the like.

Matt

chollie Jan 2, 12 8:07 pm

I always used to worry about that - forgetting to declare some random bit of something or other and getting in trouble if I ever got secondaried and 'audited'. I'm never remotely close to the limit, so it's great to not worry about it any more.

squeakr Jan 2, 12 8:44 pm

the only caution I would advise
 
based on reports here and my own experience - if you have ANY kind of food, even a bar of chocolate, some CBP's consider that "food" or "dairy" and you should declare YES at the kiosk.

chollie Jan 2, 12 8:47 pm


Originally Posted by squeakr (Post 17734970)
based on reports here and my own experience - if you have ANY kind of food, even a bar of chocolate, some CBP's consider that "food" or "dairy" and you should declare YES at the kiosk.

However, be prepared for a CBP officer to ask 'Is this it? Why are you wasting my time - this is just candy'. (This was at LAX).

Still, better to be safe than sorry, given the possible consequences if you encounter a CBP officer having a bad day.

drewguy Jan 3, 12 10:25 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17734632)
they are yes-no answers (ie, one of them might have been 'are you bringing back goods worth more than $800).

That is basically how it is phrased.

squeakr Jan 3, 12 11:01 am

same exp at LAX for me as well
 

Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17734981)
However, be prepared for a CBP officer to ask 'Is this it? Why are you wasting my time - this is just candy'. (This was at LAX).

Still, better to be safe than sorry, given the possible consequences if you encounter a CBP officer having a bad day.


but at SFO they were appreciative that I declared having candy.

kchaudha Jan 3, 12 1:57 pm

I literally just got back from my global entry interview at BOS. We actually talked about food and I specifically asked what about chocolates etc (I travel frequently to Switzerland :)
He was very clear that chocolates are not necessary to declare and pointed out that on the kiosk, it doesn't use the vague term "food" as on the form and it is quite specific, making it more clear that candy/chocolates are ok.

chollie Jan 3, 12 5:03 pm


Originally Posted by kchaudha (Post 17739845)
I literally just got back from my global entry interview at BOS. We actually talked about food and I specifically asked what about chocolates etc (I travel frequently to Switzerland :)
He was very clear that chocolates are not necessary to declare and pointed out that on the kiosk, it doesn't use the vague term "food" as on the form and it is quite specific, making it more clear that candy/chocolates are ok.

I'm going to have to remember to pay attention to that next time. I absolutely do not remember anything on either the paper form or the kiosk that clarifies what is meant by food. I am pretty sure the relevant screen only has four yes-no questions.

(edited to add): OK, this was bugging me. Looks like our own FT'ers have already sorted this issue out. See post #807 and post #809. It appears that an FT'er's inquiries may have even been responsible for the clarification. Go FT!

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/pract...hwhile-54.html

FlyerChrisK Jan 4, 12 11:09 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17734632)
The kiosk questions are much simpler and less detailed the the paper form you fill out. You don't itemize items. IIRC, there were four questions on one screen. Don't recall the exact questions, but they are yes-no answers (ie, one of them might have been 'are you bringing back goods worth more than $800).

Four sounds correct from my experience at YVR last week.


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17734981)
However, be prepared for a CBP officer to ask 'Is this it? Why are you wasting my time - this is just candy'. (This was at LAX).

Still, better to be safe than sorry, given the possible consequences if you encounter a CBP officer having a bad day.

Prior to GE/NEXUS, I had a US CBP at YUL give the "why are you wasting my time" response, but I agree, better safe than sorry.

pdquick Feb 15, 12 12:19 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 17734981)
However, be prepared for a CBP officer to ask 'Is this it? Why are you wasting my time - this is just candy'. (This was at LAX).

To which, the answer is this statement

Failure to declare food products can result in up to $10,000 in fines and penalties.

which appears on the CPB page here.

drewguy Feb 15, 12 7:48 am


Originally Posted by pdquick (Post 18018021)
To which, the answer is this statement

Failure to declare food products can result in up to $10,000 in fines and penalties.

which appears on the CPB page here.

Indeed--at my interview the CBP guy told me a tale of a woman who was GE and brought in KinderEggs, which for those who don't know are German chocolate eggs that have a small toy inside. Turns out they are illegal to import because the CPSC or someone has determined that the toys present a choking hazard to children and as part of a food product therefore shouldn't be allowed.

N1120A Feb 15, 12 10:48 am


Originally Posted by squeakr (Post 17734970)
based on reports here and my own experience - if you have ANY kind of food, even a bar of chocolate, some CBP's consider that "food" or "dairy" and you should declare YES at the kiosk.

The kiosk notes the specific categories they want declared (some of which may well be admissible, and just need to be inspected). It notes "fluid milk" instead of plain "dairy" and doesn't have a generic "food".


Originally Posted by drewguy (Post 18019314)
Indeed--at my interview the CBP guy told me a tale of a woman who was GE and brought in KinderEggs, which for those who don't know are German chocolate eggs that have a small toy inside. Turns out they are illegal to import because the CPSC or someone has determined that the toys present a choking hazard to children and as part of a food product therefore shouldn't be allowed.

Its not just CPSC. There is also a very old food safety law that is on the books that also is used. Its ridiculous, but they are very serious about Kinder Eggs. Don't bring them.

chollie Feb 15, 12 11:14 am


Originally Posted by N1120A (Post 18020559)
The kiosk notes the specific categories they want declared (some of which may well be admissible, and just need to be inspected). It notes "fluid milk" instead of plain "dairy" and doesn't have a generic "food".

This makes a lot of sense, when you think about it. Usually to get GE, you have an interview, at which time presumably CBP can explain in a bit more detail that "no, 'food' doesn't mean milk chocolates and chewing gum." CBP probably also operates on the assumption that many/most GE members are relatively experienced travellers who are, by definition, supposedly less likely to bend or break the rules.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the kiosk question was originally quite that specific about food. If it has changed, it is probably because of folks like me who took no chances, only to get told, rather snippily, "'This? This isn't food. Why are you wasting my time?" I've been honest, I declared things with GE that I never would have declared prior to GE, 'out of an abundance of caution.'


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