FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Trip Reports (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports-177/)
-   -   Old and new countries (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports/2205899-old-new-countries.html)

offerendum Dec 13, 2025 5:10 pm

Franciscan Church of the Annunciation Ljubljana
 
I had tried to visit the Franciscan Church twice, and both times it was closed.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b5f5fc1d1a.jpg
This time it worked out and I was able to visit the elaborately painted church from the inside.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...82fe091f24.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7bf6ea7748.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...96bbf0312f.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...44a861e850.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...dfc67f40ca.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...58f790527b.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1ac1a08d70.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...12d0b59603.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...27403f710c.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1c16f83243.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ffa44d229b.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6a77917dda.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...51ce66510d.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cca946d226.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1beb472eec.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...849f78e4de.jpg
The annexe houses a small museum (the photos didn't turn out well) and the library.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fc206afc2d.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5202e95c0f.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...191c0d58d8.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7a2bb4a05a.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a11f873f4f.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8fdb070057.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...519af328bf.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...263a445ec9.jpg


offerendum Dec 14, 2025 5:05 pm

National and University Library of Slovenia Ljubljana
 
The university library is considered a special attraction.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7f0d0703b9.jpg
The actual reading room was only accessible to students, so the stairwell was the main attraction.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4ea5547cbf.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8a943fce13.jpg
There was also a small special exhibition.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...00227cd721.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cf62338ee0.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...43df9c380d.jpg
At least there were interesting door handles.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ef114e76a5.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a5054a753b.jpg
At least there were interesting door handles.

offerendum Dec 14, 2025 5:13 pm

Romantika Ljubljana
 
Romantika is another celebrated ice cream parlour in Ljubljana. Not bad, but compared to the gelato in Gorizia, it's in a completely different league.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4baecf1ecd.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4e78ad2c59.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ab8733690f.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e06ac5b354.jpg


offerendum Dec 15, 2025 3:45 pm

City Museum of Ljubljana
 
The city museum offers a colourful selection. There was an exhibition on the Nazi era.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bf6a8c9369.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a1528a8db4.jpg
The Roman period.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c8ebc3adc4.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4a86e0b93d.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...468991cc6c.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f75cfa63ad.jpg
Statues from different eras.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7e3fca49c0.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ba0aed18c5.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...464a4e318c.jpg
The famous wheel.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7cf96b4595.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...76c87746d2.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0980a05e98.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...09ed1e226e.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...48eef601e1.jpg
More ancient exhibits
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b6fc13aab5.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...545da48ccd.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...756b8e2fdb.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...64f81501a7.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5c58bbc0fd.jpg
There are also more or less newer pieces.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...20bd4b9b02.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...09588d63c7.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5e61a83d24.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...03c53ef7ca.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fbc4fabbcc.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9adeff00bf.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ebbb1d92c1.jpg


offerendum Dec 15, 2025 4:19 pm

Sts. Cyril and Methodius Church Ljubljana
 
The Serbian Orthodox Church was built in 1936 but was not consecrated until 2005.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9ddda79597.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3ec47df44c.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a93b813e9f.jpg
The interior of the church is elaborately painted.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...33e32bdb1e.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fd70c57a93.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f173bb9f23.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...250313d31e.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ab7620dfcb.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...46e0482112.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f969ce7b95.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e79c18838c.jpg


xooz Dec 15, 2025 4:53 pm


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 37483679)

I see your rental car got booted. Probably shouldn't have parked inside the museum!!:)

offerendum Dec 15, 2025 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by xooz (Post 37483778)
I see your rental car got booted. Probably shouldn't have parked inside the museum!!:)

Always the VIP parking.😉
But there's nothing you can do about it, so I had to drive around with my own again.

offerendum Dec 16, 2025 3:51 pm

National Gallery of Slevenia
 
The National Gallery mainly displays Slovenian art. There is a wide range of works on display, from the Middle Ages to modern art.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...38296299f3.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a71b5267bf.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...32f0c8312c.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a2186534f4.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...db6b2414fa.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...948ddb0596.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...97cab77097.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a3e13f0fc7.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...348a94e027.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3fb2e29b3d.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d6178337fa.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ce4bb22885.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...697a560758.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...88cb5c8d32.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a7b8afe299.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d7820a18b8.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9c135eada4.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9fd2095a71.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a406c534fd.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...30a51c437a.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...096befc392.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d4b94dda12.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f1f53c7ba8.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0165e80247.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a617cc12c3.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...623c9882a0.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2f9390e3d9.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...973ef4d8aa.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d64a582fac.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b0c99ea83f.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...63386ff71b.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...063d198cb2.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fdb2946ee6.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3c25b244db.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...27a36b52e6.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...72f08bcb16.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...595fa3d102.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fcad8a72cb.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...67f31a113b.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...aa888c188e.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4176ce7f77.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...74103f8d21.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d92d93057f.jpg


offerendum Dec 16, 2025 3:56 pm

Tivoli Ljubljana
 
A short stroll through Tivoli, Ljubljana's largest park.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...aad38032d6.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...53d1c09127.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c36c76b83c.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7f715ca1ed.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...172d233466.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3489e1588e.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...154d1d5ee7.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4c1d412c01.jpg


offerendum Dec 18, 2025 3:24 pm

SNG Opera Ljubljana
 
One thing I wanted to do in Ljubljana from the outset was to visit the opera. It is housed in the former ‘Krainer Landestheater’, which was renovated some time ago and extended with a new building.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8b2eefc58c.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ce568f51d3.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...537e086695.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...48d47cca92.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...990f408ef9.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9e4bbc2dca.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...14cb981900.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...62404f42c3.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a38b88f907.jpg
On the programme is Il viaggio a Reims, one of Rossini's lesser-known operas.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0bd11822e6.jpg

It is completely unclear in Ljubljana when advance sales will begin. I had inquired by email and was told the end of September, but then the tickets suddenly went online in mid-September. Very strange. I usually only go to the theatre if I can get first category tickets; I'm not interested in anything else. Here, that means the front rows of the central boxes. As it was the premiere, all the tickets were already gone. I then booked tickets in the front row.
A few impressions of the underground complex with drinks bar, the entrance and the corridors.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1704f39372.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a8eb5bdadb.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...144af8d943.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...83d194e1e9.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3b622fd692.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f447b984eb.jpg
The program
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2413f71e25.jpg
It is a beautiful building, and with only around 500 seats, the opera house is quite intimate.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3f7ab36859.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e06b087250.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bf6025f9c1.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a921b5c90b.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1a5ba548c0.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9d6c8cf6c6.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...effcbb8882.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...67d93faa6f.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...72805524dd.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8caf95be5a.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...40c4c0d832.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5e017f701f.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...79221916dd.jpg
The performance was artistically very good. Considering that the premiere tickets only cost around €50 per person, you really can't complain. The staging was well thought out and the costumes were quite creative.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cd4b9f1bf3.jpg


offerendum Dec 19, 2025 5:19 pm

Intercontinental Ljubljana
 
After the opera, we had a light meal from room service. As it was after 10 p.m., only the night menu was available.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7dfe1b07e7.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0ddf4539f2.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8ade55718b.jpg


offerendum Dec 21, 2025 11:45 am

Tivoli Portopiccolo
 
We continued on our way. My next destination was Trieste. There is a very decent traditional hotel in the city, but unfortunately they don't have any real bSuites and the prices were quite high during the time we wanted to stay there. We later found out why. After some searching, I came across the Tivoli Hotel Portopiccolo, which had opened in 2018 as Falisa and part of the Luxury Collection. Since 2023, it has been operating under the Tivoli brand.
The hotel had quite attractive prices and I found the Presidential Suite appealing. The cheapest option was to book the room with half board, which is what we did.
The hotel is part of a new development project, where a harbour with shops, restaurants and holiday apartments has been built in a bay. Upon arrival, the satnav reliably guided us to the holiday apartments, where we found notes with directions to the hotel. It's another detour of about 4 kilometres. It was a bit crazy, and of course I was annoyed – but that's something you get used to with many hotel arrivals.
Access is via the underground car park, where you will find the ‘driveway’.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...738a685922.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fe0df51e7b.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6e2d6437b5.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...188a42e245.jpg
Access is then via the lower level; there is a small reception area upstairs, where I have never seen anyone except the doorman.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...dc01650ba4.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a104c63705.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fbeb2948e6.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bb814049d7.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ed75e9881e.jpg
As our room was not ready yet, we were offered a welcome drink in the piazza.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...330ce9fd69.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...30af9be4c1.jpg


offerendum Dec 22, 2025 4:10 pm

Tivoli Portopiccolo
 
As already mentioned, Portopiccolo is a new development built around a harbour. To be honest, I have no idea how it will ever be profitable. Some of the flats may be quite nice, but there are also many that are less appealing. And as a holiday destination? OK, if you like boating, it might be something, but many people also sleep on the boat. I'm not really enthusiastic about any of it.
Here is a map.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...975f14c7fe.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...55f59cd789.jpg
But let's start with a tour of the piazza and the hotel.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b8db6c5457.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c652236beb.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a99e71ad73.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9bfd473621.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...00ab519a07.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...abdf7cbe85.jpg
There are a few shops, but some of them are already closed in October. The restaurants also seemed rather quiet.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d3bdd400f9.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...720661a778.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7da7ef1c75.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...331e368468.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6a8b4e5e2b.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c8f54b5ff8.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...676ca8ce59.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a6629fdb37.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a66f692e83.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9ea4886505.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...06df5be45c.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e0719df1e2.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...13d2600f87.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ac86a51b78.jpg
The conference area of the hotel.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b7de649c17.jpg
That makes two of us.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...55cf8a486a.jpg


offerendum Dec 24, 2025 4:14 am

Tivoli Portopiccolo
 
The lobby is decorated in beautiful shades of blue, but it was never very busy.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...67dc20f4f4.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bc763d0559.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a8b8febaa1.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4f71e217ad.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5f5276cf7e.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3ece318e88.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...64c79fdb56.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...79108095b7.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c2da52c7c1.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9e305126f5.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1d5786f11c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8c70669290.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7718a5f0b1.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b91886d597.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...568174c325.jpg
The bar
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...93ed53bdb4.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...874891f215.jpg
Way to the rooms
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...23a6ca843e.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c15a7bdd21.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...daf58e63b0.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...850ac830a7.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f473e27267.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5a04b96b90.jpg


offerendum Dec 26, 2025 5:00 pm

Tivoli Portopiccolo
 
As already mentioned, we had booked the presidential suite, which in many other hotels would be considered a normal suite. 145 square metres sounds huge at first, but that includes a terrace. Here is the floor plan.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...98a6678578.jpg
There are 2 entrance doors
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5b972495b0.jpg



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 5:01 am.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.