First Class Menus and Experiences From Bygone Years
#616
I strongly disagree. Very few are happy or satisfied with it, there is simply no alternatve. If you have a look on Europe domestic First in the North American/ Asian region ist still a heaven.
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We have different experiences then. I have overheard many fellow travelers talking about how great their seat or service was. The ones that really get me are those who think sitting in a tight plastic molded pod a la United's 777 Polaris Suites is a wonderful experience. Air New Zealand is another. Despite offering a very nice inflight product, they've found a way to ruin a perfectly good 777/787 forward cabin. Like I say, I can't fault them for their enthusiasm. Most of them have no point of reference to the spacious days of old and the lavish meal services that used to define both domestic and international First Class. Regardless of one's past experience, flying in today's Business or "First" is still better than flying in Economy - so there is that...
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Ah... it's a nice spring day in May of 1965 and your 707 has just leveled off at 36000'. Out your window, the coast of Ireland passes silently beneath your window. Ahead lies seven hours of bliss as you look forward to enjoying Aer Lingus' renowned Golden Shamrock First Class service across the Atlantic to Boston. Your stewardess has just delivered a nicely chilled Guinness Ale with a small plate of mixed nuts. Soon she'll be round to take your initial meal requests. Let's have a look at that menu, shall we?
A E R . L I N G U S
Shannon to Boston
LUNCHEON
COCKTAILS WITH ASSORTED CANAPES
Salted Almonds - Olives - Cocktail Onions
HORS D'OEUVRES
Malossol Caviar and Blinis: Herring Fillets with Sour Cream Sauce: Artichoke Hearts Greek Style: Smoked Irish Salmon: Chicken Pate: French Bean Salad: Eggs Mayonnaise: French Sardines in Oil: Tomatoes Nicoise
SOUP
Clear Chicken Broth
Cream of Asparagus Soup
FISH
Dublin Bay Prawns Newburg Style
Accented with Cream, Eggs and Brandy
Fillet Sole Caprice
Fried in Butter, Garnished with Fried Bananas
MEAT
Fillet Mignon Rossini
Cooked in butter, garnished with Fois Gras, Truffle and Madeira Sauce
Escalope of Veal Cordon Bleu
Breaded, then fried in Butter with Cheese and Ham
Breast of Chicken Bonne Femme
White Wine Sauce, Bacon Strips, Mushrooms and Onions
VEGETABLES
Braised Celery with Bone Marrow
Croquette Potatoes
SALAD
Chef's Mixed Green Salad with a choice of French, Italian or Garlic Dressings
DESSERT
Paris Brest
Fresh Sliced Oranges Grand Marnier
Pettis Fours
Cheese Board
Fruit Basket
Coffee - Irish Coffee - Tea
WINES
Chateau Cabannieux Cru Exceptionnel
Graves Superieures Sec 1962
Chateau La Tour des Termes
Saint Estephe 1955
Cordon Rouge 1955
G.H.Mumm
Hine Antique Cognac
A E R . L I N G U S
Shannon to Boston
LUNCHEON
COCKTAILS WITH ASSORTED CANAPES
Salted Almonds - Olives - Cocktail Onions
HORS D'OEUVRES
Malossol Caviar and Blinis: Herring Fillets with Sour Cream Sauce: Artichoke Hearts Greek Style: Smoked Irish Salmon: Chicken Pate: French Bean Salad: Eggs Mayonnaise: French Sardines in Oil: Tomatoes Nicoise
SOUP
Clear Chicken Broth
Cream of Asparagus Soup
FISH
Dublin Bay Prawns Newburg Style
Accented with Cream, Eggs and Brandy
Fillet Sole Caprice
Fried in Butter, Garnished with Fried Bananas
MEAT
Fillet Mignon Rossini
Cooked in butter, garnished with Fois Gras, Truffle and Madeira Sauce
Escalope of Veal Cordon Bleu
Breaded, then fried in Butter with Cheese and Ham
Breast of Chicken Bonne Femme
White Wine Sauce, Bacon Strips, Mushrooms and Onions
VEGETABLES
Braised Celery with Bone Marrow
Croquette Potatoes
SALAD
Chef's Mixed Green Salad with a choice of French, Italian or Garlic Dressings
DESSERT
Paris Brest
Fresh Sliced Oranges Grand Marnier
Pettis Fours
Cheese Board
Fruit Basket
Coffee - Irish Coffee - Tea
WINES
Chateau Cabannieux Cru Exceptionnel
Graves Superieures Sec 1962
Chateau La Tour des Termes
Saint Estephe 1955
Cordon Rouge 1955
G.H.Mumm
Hine Antique Cognac
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We have different experiences then. I have overheard many fellow travelers talking about how great their seat or service was. The ones that really get me are those who think sitting in a tight plastic molded pod a la United's 777 Polaris Suites is a wonderful experience. Air New Zealand is another. Despite offering a very nice inflight product, they've found a way to ruin a perfectly good 777/787 forward cabin. Like I say, I can't fault them for their enthusiasm. Most of them have no point of reference to the spacious days of old and the lavish meal services that used to define both domestic and international First Class. Regardless of one's past experience, flying in today's Business or "First" is still better than flying in Economy - so there is that...
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Traveling back in the glory years of the jet age sure was different.
Take August 1970, for example. There I am, some kid traveling back from France. The good news is that we’re going to be on one of Air France’s then very brand new 747s. The bad news is that we’re in steerage and so will miss the upstairs bar, the spiral staircase, the high-end French cuisine – everything fun for a kid. But then, after an irresponsibly late check-in, we all got operational upgrades. I’m not sure, really, how that happened since transatlantic reservations from France in those days all had to be “reconfirmées” in advance, which should’ve made overbooking less likely.
In any event, the filet mignon and the from-the-cart service were wonderful. The wine was probably great, too, though I missed that part. But what I really remember best is that upstairs bar: a giant mostly empty room with a long brown leather couch along one side and a barman’s station opposite the staircase. Though it was only open for maybe two or three hours during the middle of the flight, I spent all the time I could up there. The feeling of all that space, on an airplane, was completely surreal. Plus, we had a bartender all to ourselves even though I don’t recall even attempting to order a cognac or anything else alcoholic.
And then there were the other passengers. Though this magnificent upstairs pleasure palace seemed to interest essentially nobody but me, among the few other patrons were a couple of businessmen from South Africa. To young me, that was just another exotic and far-away country, like Australia, and I most certainly had no notion whatsoever of Apartheid. I recall being most interested in their pocket change, the likes of which I had never seen before. I guess I knew a little about airplanes and coins, but evidently that was about it.
I did manage, however, to score a giant 20-by-50 inch poster showing a cutaway diagram of a huge Air France 747 on one side and various staged interior scenes on the other. I still have it today, a physical reminder of another time and another day better than any passport stamp could ever be.
Take August 1970, for example. There I am, some kid traveling back from France. The good news is that we’re going to be on one of Air France’s then very brand new 747s. The bad news is that we’re in steerage and so will miss the upstairs bar, the spiral staircase, the high-end French cuisine – everything fun for a kid. But then, after an irresponsibly late check-in, we all got operational upgrades. I’m not sure, really, how that happened since transatlantic reservations from France in those days all had to be “reconfirmées” in advance, which should’ve made overbooking less likely.
In any event, the filet mignon and the from-the-cart service were wonderful. The wine was probably great, too, though I missed that part. But what I really remember best is that upstairs bar: a giant mostly empty room with a long brown leather couch along one side and a barman’s station opposite the staircase. Though it was only open for maybe two or three hours during the middle of the flight, I spent all the time I could up there. The feeling of all that space, on an airplane, was completely surreal. Plus, we had a bartender all to ourselves even though I don’t recall even attempting to order a cognac or anything else alcoholic.
And then there were the other passengers. Though this magnificent upstairs pleasure palace seemed to interest essentially nobody but me, among the few other patrons were a couple of businessmen from South Africa. To young me, that was just another exotic and far-away country, like Australia, and I most certainly had no notion whatsoever of Apartheid. I recall being most interested in their pocket change, the likes of which I had never seen before. I guess I knew a little about airplanes and coins, but evidently that was about it.
I did manage, however, to score a giant 20-by-50 inch poster showing a cutaway diagram of a huge Air France 747 on one side and various staged interior scenes on the other. I still have it today, a physical reminder of another time and another day better than any passport stamp could ever be.
#622
We have different experiences then. I have overheard many fellow travelers talking about how great their seat or service was. The ones that really get me are those who think sitting in a tight plastic molded pod a la United's 777 Polaris Suites is a wonderful experience. Air New Zealand is another. Despite offering a very nice inflight product, they've found a way to ruin a perfectly good 777/787 forward cabin. Like I say, I can't fault them for their enthusiasm. Most of them have no point of reference to the spacious days of old and the lavish meal services that used to define both domestic and international First Class. Regardless of one's past experience, flying in today's Business or "First" is still better than flying in Economy - so there is that...
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Been to Hawaii 19 times and in those days regardless of airline the stewardesses wore mumus. You knew you were not flying to Cleveland! On a Braniff 707-320 from DFW to HNL served from a trolley that had a surfboard atop it from which the drinks and appetizers came. And who could not forget the in-flight fashion show I often enjoyed on an Air Jamaica DC-8-61 with the "those rare tropical birds" strutting up and down the aisles in bikinis and koolats! And on an JAL DC-8-62 from Cairo to Bombay the Japanese purser presenting each passenger with a gift and then extending his hand to thank you for flying JAL. Or on an Alitalia 747 from JFK to MXP watching the male purser put on a white jacket (as you might find in a good Italian restaurant) as the meal service was ready to begin. Or on a Pan Am 747 from JFK to SJU dubbed :"El Borinqano" where strolling musicians provided in-flight entertainment. And finally inside the National/Trans Caribbean terminal at JFK watching the stewardesses adorned in uniforms that included a hat much like an Argentine gaucho might wear (Nancy Reagan wore those often). How could I ever forget things like the above !
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There's no denying the benefits of lie-flat suites, incredible IFE systems offering hundreds of entertainment options and dine on demand meal services. That said however, my favorite form of inflight entertainment was the meal service. In particular, I miss the panache - not to mention the anticipation - of a proper trolley service. Those trolleys were laden with all manner of delicious accompaniments along with the roast of the day, and watching the stewardesses skillfully prepare bountiful plates of food while approaching your row was truly exciting to watch - much more so than having your plate delivered from the galley as we see today.
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It's a beautiful autumn afternoon in 1977 when you settle into the wide, plush First Class seat aboard your Philippine Airlines DC-8-61. Ahead of you lies a short one hour and forty minute flight from Manila to Hong Kong. Just outside your huge DC-8 window, the two low slung Pratt & Whitney fan jets look large and powerful enough to take you to the moon. Although the 330p departure time falls between the luncheon and dinner hours, PAL's well regarded commissary at Manila International has boarded what is descried in the menu as a "Heavy Snack", the ingredients of which should more than sate your appetite until your dinner date in Hong Kong later that evening. Sipping from your deliciously chilled Whiskey Sour, you open the large and colorful menu and take a moment to peruse the afternoon's offerings...
P H I L I P P I N E . A I R L I N E S
Manila to Hong Kong
HEAVY SNACK
Quiche Lorraine
Cheese Tart
Pains Farcies
Minced Veal Meat Rolls
Croquettes de Poisson
Fish Croquettes
Saumon Fume au Garni
Smoked Salmon with Garnish
Crevettes en Gelee
Cold Shrimps in Aspic
Points de Asperges
Asparagus Tips
Oeufs Poches Truffes
Poached Eggs with Truffles
Tourte Sacher
Viennese Chocolate Cake
Friandises
Cookies
Cafe - The
Coffee - Tea
P H I L I P P I N E . A I R L I N E S
Manila to Hong Kong
HEAVY SNACK
Quiche Lorraine
Cheese Tart
Pains Farcies
Minced Veal Meat Rolls
Croquettes de Poisson
Fish Croquettes
Saumon Fume au Garni
Smoked Salmon with Garnish
Crevettes en Gelee
Cold Shrimps in Aspic
Points de Asperges
Asparagus Tips
Oeufs Poches Truffes
Poached Eggs with Truffles
Tourte Sacher
Viennese Chocolate Cake
Friandises
Cookies
Cafe - The
Coffee - Tea
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What a wonderful month of adventure you've had in South Africa. You'll always remember those beautiful cheetas you saw on your safari through Kruger National Park and the steam train you rode between Knysna and George. Now it's time to continue your adventures in Kenya and given that you'll be flying there in First Class aboard a big, beautiful 707 from Olympic Airways, you could hardly be more excited. As you sink back into your large plush First Class recliner, you take a moment to peruse the large, attractive menu you've been presented. What a fantastic feast you'll be treated to with luncheon served on the five hour leg to Nairobi. Let's see what's being served, shall we?
O L Y M P I C . A I R W A Y S
First Class Service
LUNCHEON
Johannesburg to Nairobi
Aperitifs
*
Iranian Caviar
Melon Prosciutto
*
Asparagus Soup
*
Grilled Lobster
Chateaubriand
Served with Bordelaise Sauce
Mixed Vegetables
Chicken Peri Peri
Buttered Rice
*
Green Salad in Season
Served with Vinaigrette or Roquefort Dressing
*
Selection of International Cheese
*
Space Cake
*
Fruit Basket
*
Coffee
*
Grand Champagne Delamaine - 30 Years Old
*
Liqueurs
O L Y M P I C . A I R W A Y S
First Class Service
LUNCHEON
Johannesburg to Nairobi
Aperitifs
*
Iranian Caviar
Melon Prosciutto
*
Asparagus Soup
*
Grilled Lobster
Chateaubriand
Served with Bordelaise Sauce
Mixed Vegetables
Chicken Peri Peri
Buttered Rice
*
Green Salad in Season
Served with Vinaigrette or Roquefort Dressing
*
Selection of International Cheese
*
Space Cake
*
Fruit Basket
*
Coffee
*
Grand Champagne Delamaine - 30 Years Old
*
Liqueurs
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Traveling back in the glory years of the jet age sure was different.
Take August 1970, for example. There I am, some kid traveling back from France. The good news is that we’re going to be on one of Air France’s then very brand new 747s. The bad news is that we’re in steerage and so will miss the upstairs bar, the spiral staircase, the high-end French cuisine – everything fun for a kid. But then, after an irresponsibly late check-in, we all got operational upgrades. I’m not sure, really, how that happened since transatlantic reservations from France in those days all had to be “reconfirmées” in advance, which should’ve made overbooking less likely.
In any event, the filet mignon and the from-the-cart service were wonderful. The wine was probably great, too, though I missed that part. But what I really remember best is that upstairs bar: a giant mostly empty room with a long brown leather couch along one side and a barman’s station opposite the staircase. Though it was only open for maybe two or three hours during the middle of the flight, I spent all the time I could up there. The feeling of all that space, on an airplane, was completely surreal. Plus, we had a bartender all to ourselves even though I don’t recall even attempting to order a cognac or anything else alcoholic.
And then there were the other passengers. Though this magnificent upstairs pleasure palace seemed to interest essentially nobody but me, among the few other patrons were a couple of businessmen from South Africa. To young me, that was just another exotic and far-away country, like Australia, and I most certainly had no notion whatsoever of Apartheid. I recall being most interested in their pocket change, the likes of which I had never seen before. I guess I knew a little about airplanes and coins, but evidently that was about it.
I did manage, however, to score a giant 20-by-50 inch poster showing a cutaway diagram of a huge Air France 747 on one side and various staged interior scenes on the other. I still have it today, a physical reminder of another time and another day better than any passport stamp could ever be.
Take August 1970, for example. There I am, some kid traveling back from France. The good news is that we’re going to be on one of Air France’s then very brand new 747s. The bad news is that we’re in steerage and so will miss the upstairs bar, the spiral staircase, the high-end French cuisine – everything fun for a kid. But then, after an irresponsibly late check-in, we all got operational upgrades. I’m not sure, really, how that happened since transatlantic reservations from France in those days all had to be “reconfirmées” in advance, which should’ve made overbooking less likely.
In any event, the filet mignon and the from-the-cart service were wonderful. The wine was probably great, too, though I missed that part. But what I really remember best is that upstairs bar: a giant mostly empty room with a long brown leather couch along one side and a barman’s station opposite the staircase. Though it was only open for maybe two or three hours during the middle of the flight, I spent all the time I could up there. The feeling of all that space, on an airplane, was completely surreal. Plus, we had a bartender all to ourselves even though I don’t recall even attempting to order a cognac or anything else alcoholic.
And then there were the other passengers. Though this magnificent upstairs pleasure palace seemed to interest essentially nobody but me, among the few other patrons were a couple of businessmen from South Africa. To young me, that was just another exotic and far-away country, like Australia, and I most certainly had no notion whatsoever of Apartheid. I recall being most interested in their pocket change, the likes of which I had never seen before. I guess I knew a little about airplanes and coins, but evidently that was about it.
I did manage, however, to score a giant 20-by-50 inch poster showing a cutaway diagram of a huge Air France 747 on one side and various staged interior scenes on the other. I still have it today, a physical reminder of another time and another day better than any passport stamp could ever be.
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Ah... it is so nice to turn day dreams into reality! Ever since you first read of Eastern's new nonstop flights between St. Louis and the Pacific Northwest (1967), you've imagined yourself sitting in a plush First Class recliner, sipping from a nicely chilled glass of Chivas Regal whilst perusing the menu offerings from the upcoming dinner service. And now, here you are doing just that while comfortably ensconced in seat 2A, cruising through the soft blue yonder high above eastern Nebraska. As your 727 chases the setting sun, you take another pull from your Scotch and open the menu to once again consider your dinner options...
E A S T E R N . A I R L I N E S
St. Louis to Seattle
DINNER
SALAD/APPETIZER
Alaskan Crab Salad
ENTREES
Filet of Sole Amandine
A delicate filet of sole sauteed in butter, lemon juice and sherry,
then topped with toasted almond slices
Chicken Rochambeau
Filet of chicken sauteed in seasoned butter, placed on a slice of ham,
then covered with a rich Burgundy mushroom sauce
Veal Cordon Bleu
Tender veal cutlet sauteed in butter, then topped with ham,
Swiss cheese and a sherry mushroom sauce
Vegetables
Wild Rice Pilaf * Green Peas with water chestnuts and pimientos
DESSERT
Chocolate Velvet
*** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
WINES
White Burgundy ~ Pouilly Fuisse
Red Burgundy ~ Gevrey Chambertin
Champagne ~ Mumm's Cordon Rouge Brut
E A S T E R N . A I R L I N E S
St. Louis to Seattle
DINNER
SALAD/APPETIZER
Alaskan Crab Salad
ENTREES
Filet of Sole Amandine
A delicate filet of sole sauteed in butter, lemon juice and sherry,
then topped with toasted almond slices
Chicken Rochambeau
Filet of chicken sauteed in seasoned butter, placed on a slice of ham,
then covered with a rich Burgundy mushroom sauce
Veal Cordon Bleu
Tender veal cutlet sauteed in butter, then topped with ham,
Swiss cheese and a sherry mushroom sauce
Vegetables
Wild Rice Pilaf * Green Peas with water chestnuts and pimientos
DESSERT
Chocolate Velvet
*** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
WINES
White Burgundy ~ Pouilly Fuisse
Red Burgundy ~ Gevrey Chambertin
Champagne ~ Mumm's Cordon Rouge Brut
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So true! I wonder how these cakes were interpreted in the 1970s? My guess is that it might have been something light like an angel dust - er - angel food cake.