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I was once at a window seat for an overnight flight in Y (ugh) and was exhausted and ready to sleep....and a mother and her son (5ish) were in the middle and aisle next to me. The son kept screaming about being by the window so he could look out (it was dark!), the mother asked me if I'd switch, then I said I'd rather not b/c I'd like to sleep undisturbed...then the child kept screaming and pouting and the mother kept saying LOUDLY "i'm sorry the man wont give you his seat"
I finally relented and of course every 10 minutes the kid got up. Was so pissed. |
Originally Posted by demkr
(Post 15022764)
I am sorry for what happened and that she was short/rude with you, but I would not switch a middle seat on the 763 for a window/aisle either. I choose a middle seat for a reason
As for the OP's "no wedding ring" crack, I gather from the OP's handle that he lives in the Northeast. I grew up there, and we may be looking at regional cultural differences. In the NE in many quarters, a married person not wearing a wedding ring is considered suspect, and tantimount to cheating, or at least "looking". An idea that would be pretty alien here out West, where many people (including myself and my spouse) don't bother with them. They especially get in the way of outdoor and recreational activities. Talk to any hand surgeon about how dangerous they are - there's not much they can do with a finger that's had the flesh stripped off it by a ring that's gotten caught on something. In other words, the fact that the woman in question was not wearing a ring says nothing about her marital status. |
Originally Posted by Icesk8er1970
(Post 11934398)
Well, in row 9 there was a family (two parents, one three year old and one lap child) who were the WORST people I've ever seen on a plane. The kids threw things, screamed, slamed things open and shut, cried, etc. for *8 straight hours*.
Got to agree with an earlier post that you should have just went to an FA and stated that someone is in your seat and doesn't want to give it up even though you've shown him your BP. The person who took your seat should have explained his situation and then asked if he could stay, not simply stating that he's staying put because... |
Originally Posted by bamboosensation
(Post 15023564)
I was once at a window seat for an overnight flight in Y (ugh) and was exhausted and ready to sleep....and a mother and her son (5ish) were in the middle and aisle next to me. The son kept screaming about being by the window so he could look out (it was dark!), the mother asked me if I'd switch, then I said I'd rather not b/c I'd like to sleep undisturbed...then the child kept screaming and pouting and the mother kept saying LOUDLY "i'm sorry the man wont give you his seat"
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Originally Posted by metsfan1962
(Post 15022979)
I didn't say it was unusual to swap seats.
Originally Posted by metsfan1962
(Post 15022979)
I'm quite sure that most people know what I'm talking about re unmarried woman in their 40s/50s/60s living alone with umpteen cats. I never said there's anything wrong with being an unmarried woman and/or owning cats, but there ARE people like that just as there might be unmarried men with 20 dogs, but I think the former is much more common.
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Originally Posted by aaupgrade
(Post 15023404)
As a single person who flies to HI once or twice a year, I can relate with this single woman who did not want to switch from her 5D seat to 4B. I would not have either, for a variety of reasons.
1. Being single I frequently asked to switch on domestic F flights, and almost always asked when I fly to HI. It gets old after a while. 2. I won't switch if it is not for a "like" seat, and that translates to center aisle on 763s. This is usually the issue that prevents me from moving. 4B is not equal to 5D due to being inconvenienced by having to get up to let the window person out. 3. I also pick my seat based on FEBO, so I also will not switch if the FA does not honor my meal choice (in the past they have never refused, so this is not a big issue IMO). 4. I travel a lot for pleasure, and purchase my tickets way in advance so I can have my choice of seats. That is the benefit of planning ahead. Having to change my plans because someone did not plan ahead or just got upgraded is an inconvenience to me, something these folks tend to overlook. The nice thing is when traveling internationally you don't run into this issue in F. IMO this "cat lady" is probably just another single traveler like myself; and if she is, she definitely does not have cats or any other pets as I travel about 3-4 months a year. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 15023066)
3. No one has to change seats if they don't want to. This woman was already settled in for her flight, and went to the trouble of cleaning her seat and tray because airlines no longer do. If the couple wanted to sit together, they should have booked seats together. It was was THEIR problem, and they tried to make it the woman's problem by, in your words, "shaming her" into switching. Good for her for sticking to her guns.
It's pretty simple: despite a few people who dislike being asked to move, it is neither wrong nor innappropriate to ask someone to move if you do it politely, and you only do it once. If they're bothered about being asked, in general it's their problem. The only obligation a person being asked has is to be polite in declining if they choose not to move. Even if they're NOT polite about it, It is most certainly inappropriate to, having gotten a decline, keep bothering them, attempt to "shame" them, or in other some other way escalate the situation.
Originally Posted by metsfan1962
(Post 15023511)
I also learned something. When I lived in NY, both the E and F went to the 179th Street station. I guess when they built the AirTrain line, they rerouted the E line so it no longer stops at that station. I'd bet some FTers in NY can confirm that.
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While I obviously understand that it is entirely up to the person in the seat, I can't believe how many people actually say they decline a swap request here on FT (especially those who just are 'tired' of switching:confused:). A lot of my travel is in F and single so I get asked semi-frequently as well and always accommodate. I feel any loss to me whether aisle/window, taking a worse FEBO position, or bulkhead seat is trivial compared to letting friends or a couple sit together.
Conversely, anytime I am flying with the mrs and unable to actually select side-by-side seats I always ask, usually starting with the person who will be getting the 'better' seat. If someone declines I don't ever push it, I just think a little less of them for being self-serving. Because honestly in the end, there is such a minimal difference between most seats. |
I refuse to switch seats. If I wanted to play musical chairs, I would fly southwest.
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Originally Posted by black dawn
(Post 15028501)
I refuse to switch seats. If I wanted to play musical chairs, I would fly southwest.
And I have seen a lot of family-related seat-switching in Y on flights from Hawaii to the mainland (never the other way around, for some reason). |
Originally Posted by sica4
(Post 15028237)
Conversely, anytime I am flying with the mrs and unable to actually select side-by-side seats I always ask, usually starting with the person who will be getting the 'better' seat. If someone declines I don't ever push it, I just think a little less of them for being self-serving.
2. You have a funny definition of self-serving. You're the one asking for that a stranger accommodate you, yet if the stranger declines he's self-serving? I'm afraid not. Look up the definition. |
Originally Posted by sica4
(Post 15028237)
...Because honestly in the end, there is such a minimal difference between most seats.
And you would then think less of me. C'est la vie. |
Originally Posted by black dawn
(Post 15028501)
I refuse to switch seats. If I wanted to play musical chairs, I would fly southwest.
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Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
(Post 15028863)
Doesn't seem very Christian, to me. ;)
"Do unto others" doesn't mean that others have priority, simply that you treat others as you would wish to be treated - that doesn't mean giving their requests priority over your own comfort. |
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