Using Dual Passports
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In NZ he would have to show some sort of visa/PR in his MY passport that entitles him to be in NZ at the time (and his PR in effect has been cancelled when granted citizenship). Plus mailing from consulate/embassy can take an amazing amount of months to do (whereas in Malaysia it's only a couple of hours, go figure!).
As for trying to get a family member to renew it in Malaysia, that is an option worth checking into, thanks. He's flying to SG next month and could hand the old one to his family.
As for trying to get a family member to renew it in Malaysia, that is an option worth checking into, thanks. He's flying to SG next month and could hand the old one to his family.
If so, perhaps having the family mail in the app on his behalf is the best approach.
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Does he still have the old NZ PR card that didn't expire? It's not exactly honest, but if he has the card, perhaps he can show it at the embassy during the renewal process - or is there a concern the embassy folks might call and check his real status in NZ?
If so, perhaps having the family mail in the app on his behalf is the best approach.
If so, perhaps having the family mail in the app on his behalf is the best approach.
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NZ uses a sticker in the passport for an Indefinite Returning Resident's Visa, so technically he still has that plus the PR entry stamp in his passport (they don't use exit stamps, fortunately). I don't know if they would bother checking with NZ Immigration if the IRRV is still valid or not, that's a good question.
It might be more likely the local embassy will ask more questions about his PM status or verify it because they are right there in NZ.
This is a hard one to pick, but at least there are two useful options to consider. He is not alone - plenty of MY and SG citizens hold dual, even triple citizenship and successfully hide it from their home governments. I don't know why these two countries have a stick up their rear about dual nationality - I was told I could have problems as a visitor showing up with my US and Canadian passports on my person if they were discovered, even though I would only select one to enter/exit.
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Sounds like this is his only real option with the lowest risk of the two - if he enters MY via SG without any stamps (not sure if MY immigration will check thoroughly on the causeway), they might ask questions, but he can claim ignorance and just show he is a NZ PM and it's doubtful they will check from there.
It might be more likely the local embassy will ask more questions about his PM status or verify it because they are right there in NZ.
This is a hard one to pick, but at least there are two useful options to consider. He is not alone - plenty of MY and SG citizens hold dual, even triple citizenship and successfully hide it from their home governments. I don't know why these two countries have a stick up their rear about dual nationality - I was told I could have problems as a visitor showing up with my US and Canadian passports on my person if they were discovered, even though I would only select one to enter/exit.
It might be more likely the local embassy will ask more questions about his PM status or verify it because they are right there in NZ.
This is a hard one to pick, but at least there are two useful options to consider. He is not alone - plenty of MY and SG citizens hold dual, even triple citizenship and successfully hide it from their home governments. I don't know why these two countries have a stick up their rear about dual nationality - I was told I could have problems as a visitor showing up with my US and Canadian passports on my person if they were discovered, even though I would only select one to enter/exit.
Some European countries are also still pretty restrictive in terms of allowing citizens to have dual-nationality, but that has nothing to do with a history of being colonized by foreign powers ... even as it has much to do with xenophobia too.
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A close relative born in Australia but now holds a Canadian passport. On returning to Australia for a funeral was brought in for questioning due to the suspicious short travel on his passport.
He had a job in travel and would visit South American countries to view hotel facilities for a day or two in each country. They started to ask about drug use and what he was doing there. The questioning was quite detailed until they asked if he had held a passport from another country. When he said he had held an Australian passport, the questioning almost stopped immediately and he was let go.
He had a job in travel and would visit South American countries to view hotel facilities for a day or two in each country. They started to ask about drug use and what he was doing there. The questioning was quite detailed until they asked if he had held a passport from another country. When he said he had held an Australian passport, the questioning almost stopped immediately and he was let go.
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A close relative born in Australia but now holds a Canadian passport. On returning to Australia for a funeral was brought in for questioning due to the suspicious short travel on his passport.
He had a job in travel and would visit South American countries to view hotel facilities for a day or two in each country. They started to ask about drug use and what he was doing there. The questioning was quite detailed until they asked if he had held a passport from another country. When he said he had held an Australian passport, the questioning almost stopped immediately and he was let go.
He had a job in travel and would visit South American countries to view hotel facilities for a day or two in each country. They started to ask about drug use and what he was doing there. The questioning was quite detailed until they asked if he had held a passport from another country. When he said he had held an Australian passport, the questioning almost stopped immediately and he was let go.

