Tipping question...
#16
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This is kind of a side note, but I had to share because these tipping threads get to me...
Recently we rented a restaurant for a reception. The service was amazing. The restaurant is known for it's food and service, but really it is one of these places that is above and beyond. The restaurant is not the cheapest place, but given that I've had pretty good service at cheap restaurants and pretty bad service at expensive restaurants I think that fact is unimportant.
The tip was included in the bill, at 15% before taxes.
If 15% before tax is what a restaurant with amazing service expects, why do people expect more?
Recently we rented a restaurant for a reception. The service was amazing. The restaurant is known for it's food and service, but really it is one of these places that is above and beyond. The restaurant is not the cheapest place, but given that I've had pretty good service at cheap restaurants and pretty bad service at expensive restaurants I think that fact is unimportant.
The tip was included in the bill, at 15% before taxes.
If 15% before tax is what a restaurant with amazing service expects, why do people expect more?
For example, at my club, I've thrown several parties ranging from 10 to 60 people. I give a supplemental cash tip to all the servers and car valets that park cars for me and my guests. Generally in the $50 range. So on a big event the cash tips are several hundred bucks. Yes, I am considered overly generous, but I also note that the level of service I get at any place I frequent regularly has been very, very high. Also, I can afford it. I'm sure I would not be throwing these parties or going to places that require tipping as much if I could not afford it. I consider the tip to be a full part of the expense and plan accordingly. If I can afford the meal, but not a generous tip, then I don't go.
Also, per the other conversation on this thread, my minimum cash tip in most situations (not counting starbucks and the like), for things like bellman, waiters, car valets is $5. So I carry a bunch of $5 bills around for tipping.
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Q: How do you get the small change/notes for tips?
When travelling, the ATM's will not give small notes and you usually need more tip money than you get back from spending. It's like constant struggle to optimize the use of cash to get the "right size" of money back.
At home I spend less than 50e a month in cash, everything is through a few debit/credit cards, even a few euro purchases. Most of the time I don't have any cash in my wallet.
When travelling, the ATM's will not give small notes and you usually need more tip money than you get back from spending. It's like constant struggle to optimize the use of cash to get the "right size" of money back.
At home I spend less than 50e a month in cash, everything is through a few debit/credit cards, even a few euro purchases. Most of the time I don't have any cash in my wallet.
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#21
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what the flipping hell? 20% tip to a taxi driver....tipping the shuttle bus drivers...then housekeeping....JUST SAY NO.
Really, this just is annoying. I only tip hotel staff who help me with my bags and restaurants where menus explicitly state that service is not included in the bill. Everyone else gets a rounding-up to the nearest convenient sum.
Really, this just is annoying. I only tip hotel staff who help me with my bags and restaurants where menus explicitly state that service is not included in the bill. Everyone else gets a rounding-up to the nearest convenient sum.
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#24
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I was at a wedding the other week where all of the staff was prohibited from accepting tips. It was so refreshing to be at a place where everyone you met (other than guests) did not have their hand out.
Please don't lament about the poor wait staff there. They received plenty from the newlyweds.
Please don't lament about the poor wait staff there. They received plenty from the newlyweds.
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Applebees to Go, Outback Curbside?
I'll throw out a topic here (and mods feel free to correct me if needed): What about Applebees to Go or Outback Curbside? There are people that do wait on people here, albeit, they just ask for payment and people get the food and they are done. I was at an Applebees once and when I crossed out the tip line, the person waiting on me flinched, but obviously was not visibly upset. I have not made up my mind on this type of service yet but could see them getting a tip, probably except for the Olive Garden where you need to go into the restaurant to get your food.
#26
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I'll throw out a topic here (and mods feel free to correct me if needed): What about Applebees to Go or Outback Curbside? There are people that do wait on people here, albeit, they just ask for payment and people get the food and they are done. I was at an Applebees once and when I crossed out the tip line, the person waiting on me flinched, but obviously was not visibly upset. I have not made up my mind on this type of service yet but could see them getting a tip, probably except for the Olive Garden where you need to go into the restaurant to get your food.
Generally (although it may differ at some restaurants), the take out service at a sit down restaurant is assigned to a member of the normal waitstaff. This means someone who normally waits on tables collects the food from the kitchen, puts everything in a bag, gets the utensils in the bag, etc... and does this for the take outs during all or part of his/her shift. Since this take time, oftentimes this "normally a table waiter/waittress" is given a much smaller section of tables (fewer tables = less tips/money for their shift) or no tables at all for part of their shift.
This is part of the reason why I always tip on take out from places that are primarily or normally sit down restaurants.
#27
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Q: How do you get the small change/notes for tips?
When travelling, the ATM's will not give small notes and you usually need more tip money than you get back from spending. It's like constant struggle to optimize the use of cash to get the "right size" of money back.
At home I spend less than 50e a month in cash, everything is through a few debit/credit cards, even a few euro purchases. Most of the time I don't have any cash in my wallet.
When travelling, the ATM's will not give small notes and you usually need more tip money than you get back from spending. It's like constant struggle to optimize the use of cash to get the "right size" of money back.
At home I spend less than 50e a month in cash, everything is through a few debit/credit cards, even a few euro purchases. Most of the time I don't have any cash in my wallet.

