1st bag fee - how to protest?
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Paying with 25 one-dollar bills might be a nice middle ground. They'll have to top and count them but it won't slow things down as badly as nickels and quarters.
And, to the people who think the answer is switching airlines or getting Elite status on the offenders- be realistic. In some locations (CLT, ATL, CVG) you're pretty much tied to a single airline- and even low-tier Elite status requires a heavier-than-average amount of flying. If you don't fly on business, or your business flying has to be spread out among several airlines, getting Elite status through personal travel will be a lot more expensive than checked-bag fees.
And, to the people who think the answer is switching airlines or getting Elite status on the offenders- be realistic. In some locations (CLT, ATL, CVG) you're pretty much tied to a single airline- and even low-tier Elite status requires a heavier-than-average amount of flying. If you don't fly on business, or your business flying has to be spread out among several airlines, getting Elite status through personal travel will be a lot more expensive than checked-bag fees.
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Eventually someone is going to say because they were charged to check a bag, the airline has a greater liability and responsibility to deliver the bag on the same flight as the paying passenger.
Will be interesting to see what the results of a lawsuit over a delayed or lost bag are.
Will be interesting to see what the results of a lawsuit over a delayed or lost bag are.
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Eventually someone is going to say because they were charged to check a bag, the airline has a greater liability and responsibility to deliver the bag on the same flight as the paying passenger.
Will be interesting to see what the results of a lawsuit over a delayed or lost bag are.
Will be interesting to see what the results of a lawsuit over a delayed or lost bag are.
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Eventually someone is going to say because they were charged to check a bag, the airline has a greater liability and responsibility to deliver the bag on the same flight as the paying passenger.
Will be interesting to see what the results of a lawsuit over a delayed or lost bag are.
Will be interesting to see what the results of a lawsuit over a delayed or lost bag are.
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No, I don't think mine went down. I just think that without it, both would have gone up.
We're not talking about charities here.
Originally Posted by ludocdoc
So you've bought into the BS that your fare is lower because you don't pay for a checked bag? Please. Your fare didnt go down. His went up.
We're not talking about charities here.
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Need or want - I may want to travel with large bottles of suncream or contact lens solution but I don't need to travel with them
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On which carrier(s)? I know that the mobility device is free, and that it generally does not count against any other luggage limits, but I do not know of any carrier where it exempts one from the other fees.
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I used to carefully pack my purchases into my carry-on so they'd be safe from the baggage gorillas and the TSA. Now I can't. No mishaps so far, thank heaven, but if I come home from London and find that a bottle of the single-cask scotch in my checked bag is lost or damaged, my husband may cry. In fact, I've had to spread the risk by putting 2 bottles in my main bag and checking a second, smaller bag for the other 2. (I'm generally on American where I have status, so they carry an extra item and they don't get paid for it.)
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I agree that most lotions and potions can be put into regulation-size containers in a Freedom Baggie- but what about alcohol, bought at the destination or in Duty-Free? Those of us who have to connect on re-entering the US are forced to check a bag if we've bought Duty-Free alcohol. Plenty of people on this site enjoy bring back bottles of wine from places they visit.
Don't get me wrong - I think that the TSA rule is a joke and of zero value and don't enjoy that the airlines are effectively leveraging it to line their pockets. I don't like that I had to pay $15 to bring wine to my in-laws for Thanksgiving weekend where in the past I would've just carried the 6 bottles on. But I certainly didn't "need" to carry wine with me, and though you may want to buy liquor in duty-free it is not some inalienable right nor a true "need" for most folks.
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Originally Posted by sbm12
On which carrier(s)? I know that the mobility device is free, and that it generally does not count against any other luggage limits, but I do not know of any carrier where it exempts one from the other fees.
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A more effective protest, in my humble opinion, is to stop buying duty free and other liquids inside the airport. Do you want the airports to profit from the liquid ban, or do you want them on our side? Don't buy duty free. In airports where it's safe to drink the water, find the water fountain and fill your own bottle. That's what I do. However, it is an ineffective protest indeed when everybody else is happy to pay $3 for a bottle of water!
I don't think it is inherently unfair that people who carry more weight, whether on their bodies or in their bags, should pay more fees than people who carry less weight. The unfairness comes because of the liquid ban, which causes an undue hardship for some people in some situations. The checked bag fee would seem less unfair if you could make a safe choice to just carry on what you need, without fear that necessary items like drinking water could be seized at security.
Paying a fee in coins or dollar bills is not a protest of anything. It makes it apparent that you're on a budget and have to squeeze the last coin or bill, but that doesn't make it apparent that you're protesting. Plenty of people have to pinch the last penny who aren't protesting. I admit to seeing them more often at the grocery store and the Dollar store than at the airport though.
I don't think it is inherently unfair that people who carry more weight, whether on their bodies or in their bags, should pay more fees than people who carry less weight. The unfairness comes because of the liquid ban, which causes an undue hardship for some people in some situations. The checked bag fee would seem less unfair if you could make a safe choice to just carry on what you need, without fear that necessary items like drinking water could be seized at security.
Paying a fee in coins or dollar bills is not a protest of anything. It makes it apparent that you're on a budget and have to squeeze the last coin or bill, but that doesn't make it apparent that you're protesting. Plenty of people have to pinch the last penny who aren't protesting. I admit to seeing them more often at the grocery store and the Dollar store than at the airport though.
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A more effective protest, in my humble opinion, is to stop buying duty free and other liquids inside the airport. Do you want the airports to profit from the liquid ban, or do you want them on our side? Don't buy duty free. In airports where it's safe to drink the water, find the water fountain and fill your own bottle.
I can definitely tell you that my husband and I buy less duty-free alcohol now. Before if it was a slight bargain we'd stock up. Now, if we're going to have to re-check it before an onward flight we don't bother unless it's a really good deal (such as the promos they frequently have on Bombay Sapphire). I suspect we're not the only ones who have cut back.

