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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:25 am
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empty empty empty-my recent flights are empty

3 in a row, and i know it is scattered and random, but boy they are really quiet in Y, and i asked an FA and she said last 3 weeks, biz has fallen off in Y dramatically
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:53 am
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Ah, I love empty flights. Hope the trend continues!
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by lehms
3 in a row, and i know it is scattered and random, but boy they are really quiet in Y, and i asked an FA and she said last 3 weeks, biz has fallen off in Y dramatically
Any data points, you'd like to share?
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by PanHam
Ah, I love empty flights. Hope the trend continues!
Good thinking. Empty flights --> no revenue --> fewer flights --> no airline left to love.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:57 am
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Last week all 4 of my flights were quite full. I guess I'll see tomorrow.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:58 am
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My flights have been quite full (>80%) recently.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:06 am
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This is the time of year we call "Calm before the storm".

People tend to curtail travel until the Thanksgiving rush..then all hell breaks loose!
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by BearX220
Good thinking. Empty flights --> no revenue --> fewer flights --> no airline left to love.
Oh, I hope just the flights I'm on are empty

Besides - no UA might be a good thing . . . .
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:08 am
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For me (usually 2 to 3 UAL flights a week), it's been a weirdly disproportionate full/emptiness.

On long haul domestic/cross country, regular economy is packed to the freaking gills, and Economy Plus less than 1/2 full.

On short haul, the flights are less full, and Economy+ is vacant.

Routinely now they have a senior gate agent come on board to try to upsell, usually after several people get pissed off after being told they can't move up to the nice empty seats up front without paying more.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:09 am
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Haven't flown UA in a few weeks but my recent TPE-BKK roundtrip on TG was very quiet.

The return - everybody had a row of 3 to themselves in Y and the back section was completely empty - probably a load of <10% in Y.

I have several UA flights booked between now and March, mostly international, and the seatmaps look very sparse (I am the only seat in C assigned trans-pacific both directions for example)

Yes I know seatmaps don't tell the whole story but I have never seen them so empty...
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:16 am
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I fly to/from LAS. My flights are ALWAYS nearly full, usually with tourists.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:19 am
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My flights last weekend were all full, with one even at the point of asking for volunteers, and actually IDBing people. Also, I have several Y class flights booked for later this month, and one of them looks full, and one is currently at all 0's except for Y1 B1.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:23 am
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October trip to Asia, all flights FULL in all classes (they took 1 VDB on my HKG-SFO flight). SFO-ORD was full in F, I think a handful of empties in Y, but not many. Even my MBS-ORD-MBS flights were mostly full, just 3-4 empty seats on a CRJ--lucky me, I got one of the empties next to me both times.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:24 am
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I do BWI-LAX and they are always very full... They were offering VDB on my last flight out to LAX but unfortunately I had a schedule to keep...

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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:30 am
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IIRC mid Nov is dead until USA thanksgiving..... right?
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