Same Route, Same Departure Time, But.....
#1
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: EWR
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Same Route, Same Departure Time, But.....
So I was looking at flights on 5/29, trying to decide on my return from ORD to EWR. Because it was about $100 cheaper, I booked the AA flight leaving at 7:30 PM, over the CO flight leaving at the same time.
On closer inspection, I noticed something very odd. The CO & AA flights have the same departure time, but the CO flight's scheduled arrival time is 27 minutes later.
5/29/08 EWR-ORD AA 1918 7:30 - 10:35, service with an MD-80
5/29/08 EWR-ORD CO 1162 7:30 - 11:02, service with a 737-500
So what's the explanation here? Is an AA MD-80 that much faster than a CO 735? Does AA get a faster clearance at ORD to get airborne? Anyone?
On closer inspection, I noticed something very odd. The CO & AA flights have the same departure time, but the CO flight's scheduled arrival time is 27 minutes later.
5/29/08 EWR-ORD AA 1918 7:30 - 10:35, service with an MD-80
5/29/08 EWR-ORD CO 1162 7:30 - 11:02, service with a 737-500
So what's the explanation here? Is an AA MD-80 that much faster than a CO 735? Does AA get a faster clearance at ORD to get airborne? Anyone?
#5
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: n.y.c.
Posts: 14,059
Looking at some numbers...
From http://www.bts.gov/xml/ontimesummary...maryFlightData
On-time Performance: January 1, 2008 - March 31, 2008
AA: 33.33%
CO: 45.07%
When compared to AA:
CO's Average Departure delay: 4.89 minutes longer
CO's Average Taxi-out time: 4.64 minutes longer
CO's Average Airborne time: 0.24 minutes longer
CO's Average Taxi-in time: 2.85 minutes longer
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Total: CO flight takes 12.62 minutes longer, on average.
However, the 27 minutes of additional padding in the schedule gave them a significantly better on-time performance over this period.
On-time Performance: January 1, 2008 - March 31, 2008
AA: 33.33%
CO: 45.07%
When compared to AA:
CO's Average Departure delay: 4.89 minutes longer
CO's Average Taxi-out time: 4.64 minutes longer
CO's Average Airborne time: 0.24 minutes longer
CO's Average Taxi-in time: 2.85 minutes longer
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Total: CO flight takes 12.62 minutes longer, on average.
However, the 27 minutes of additional padding in the schedule gave them a significantly better on-time performance over this period.
#6
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Programs: UA, AA, DL, Amtrak
Posts: 4,647
I for one care more about arriving when I expect to, especially when making connections. You'd have to have a difference of 45 minutes or more before I'd care about a difference in schedule. (Unless we are talking about a very short segment like LGA-DCA, e.g.)
The problem is that on-time performance of an airline isn't readily noticeable when you purchase a ticket, whereas scheduled gate-to-gate time is. But most people would choose on price anyway.




