It's not so much the reclining seat I object to but the attitude that sometimes comes with it.

...And are you willing to pay a good bit more for each of your tickets?

(A) Having once flown "Transatlantic" in a canvas paratroop rack - no recline there - along the side of a C-130, little heat and turboprops drumming in my ears through the uninsulated fuselage, even "crowded" is a step up.

(B) Unfortunately, the airlines (even WN) seem unable to segregate their a/c into short hauls (2 hours or less) and long hauls in every case. In my experience, it seems silly that AA's Iglet Saab 340 flights from DFW to ACT (25 minutes aloft depending on wind direction) recline, but then the birds are so decrepit that the seats are sort of falling apart anyway. I suppose some techie could invent and market a cheap "Recline Lock Control" for short flights.

(C) Many folks recline simnply because they can. For them, it's like sucking up the last drop of a can of soda, a "Take all you get get!" docrine of life.

(D) Some recline because with their heads back they drool less noticeably after falling asleep.

(E) Had God wanted you to have a laptop, he would have issued you one. I've found a great way to protest against laptop users, simply waiting until just after a successful boot-up before standing up to go to the john. Between that and subtly pulling the plug out of the power point when they are not looking, it's possible to cause them great anguish for having spread stuff over seats and tray tables and rigged cables to be stumbled over.

(F) Unless the airlines bring a few old "sleeper-configured" DC-3s out of some desert Bone Yard or install a tier or two of surplus Navy pipe frame and canvas bunks from a scrapped destroyer in some of their current fleets, I suspect you might as well get used to conditions as they are. "TS" cards are punched in the Chaplain's Office, Second Deck, Aft. If you don't know what a "TS" card is, don't ask.

Already going bad. Open Skies proposes to place premium economy seats at 52 inches pitch.

Sorry, but I'm going to recline. Those seats are terribly uncomfortable and I'm not going to sit there with my back bend in ways it shouldn't be. Height makes a difference and the bend of the seat does not allow me to sit comfortably. Plus, I like to sleep on the plane and can only do so with some recline.

So I'm sorry that you feel your rights for me not to recline seem to outweigh my right, but that's life. It's not always fair. The seats have a recline function for a reason, and as needed I will use it. Just like the guy in front of me is going to. I have never given someone a hard time for reclining in front of me, as I reserve the same right.

Almost always when I am flying it is long-haul. I don't recline the whole way because I sleep better sitting up with my chin on my chest, but going back even just a couple of inches seems to ease the too-forward pitch that gives me a backache. So I can't move. Big deal. I'm sleeping :D

I believe some Asian LCCs want to have non reclining seats.

[snicker] Describes me to a tee.

Count me as one that drools less with the seat reclined.

Are those of you that get upset with people reclining the same people that ride 55 in the fast lane?

The seats recline. It is appropriate to recline your seat if you want to, regardless of whether the person in front of you reclines. It's not rude, it's not infringing on anybody elses space. The seat is built with a button that uses that space, you were kind enough to let the fellow behind you use that space until you reclined.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but I cannot fathom kicking a seat or grabbing the back of it intentionally because someone in front of me reclined. Pay for F if you can't handle it. For the record, I'm 6'3", mostly legs, and am absolutely miserable in Y, regardless of whether the person in front of me reclines. That doesn't mean it isn't well within their rights to do so. I actually feel bad because often my legs prohibit their seat from going all the way back.

Why anyone would fly on the Self Loading Cargo Department is beyond of my understanding? It is totally fine for the short hops but there are so many inexpensive ways to get international C/F.

So that people can sleep. Your thread should really say I want more space in front of my seat, but I'm too cheap to pay for it. ;) It's not your fellow passenger's job to make up for what you can't afford to pay for your ticket. There are also a few dozen threads on here about this. You should probably search for them before posting something like this.

I don't particularly care if you do that, though I know it bothers some folks. I never sleep on planes, so feel free to grab all you like!

My annoying someone on a plane is a way to keep me amused. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I don't do it to honk people off, but it is my choice to recline or someone else's choice to knee my seat. It doesn't really bother me at all. On the rare time that I am in coach, I try to make myself as comfortable as I possibly can. Attitude? No, not really....just a gal trying to make the best of her situation.

I don't post much in the TB forum, but I do it read it often, this topic sure does come up a lot!

I don't get it at all and maybe someone can explain it to me. The seats I sit in recline so therefor I recline.

I am doing this for personal comfort where much isn't offered. People on here say "well enjoy my knee in your back and don't mind if I use your seat to get up" - well now your doing this to spite me? Why? Do you know me? Did you ask if I could move my seat up a bit?

I don't get it. I am going to recline and unless you ask differently (politely) putting your knee in my back, or using my chair to get up isn't going to bother me as much as it'll make you look like an ....

Thats why the thread says "Seats on Planes should be NON RECLINABLE ! ". It does not say nobody should recline. Asking self restraint of strangers is a tough sell. Seats should recline just an inch or so, just enough to allow you to lean into the middle seat when sleeping.

How many times have you politely asked somone to move the seat up "just a bit", so you can eat. Then they look at you like you have two heads and move the seat "up just a bit".

Like a cabby in Managua with music blaring, when you ask "Senor, can you turn down the music a bit". He does just that, turns it down "just a bit"

Well if they where non-reclinable I would have to look for another profession.

How about maybe instead of taking it out on other pax and taking away what little bit of comfort they may have, give us some real seats, real arm-rests and real space. HA.. Well since that won't happen, we'll just need to be human and get along.

You got a meal in coach??? LOL LOL LOL