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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 3:51 am
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Great question Rabidstoat especially in light of recent events.

Evacuations may vary from airline to airline so this answer is based on the way I know. I imagine it's pretty standard from airline to airline but there could be some variants.

Originally Posted by Rabidstoat
Specifically, I'm wondering about those passengers who need assistance in boarding the aircraft. Do flight attendants know where they sit and assist them? Or is it just nearby passengers who usually pitch in to help? It seems like it would be difficult for some of the less mobile to get out the slides, though I don't know (thankfully!) how hard it is to maneuver out the slides.
When performing our safety demo we are scanning the aircraft for ABPs or able bodied passengers. This are people we think will be of assistance in an emergency like being able to move passengers. Should something happen I already know where to look so I can call for help and it's most likely I'll be given the assistance if asked. We know which passengers require that extra assistance.

Once the aircraft has stopped and the evacuation has commenced (regardless if on land or at sea) passengers that need help getting to the door will be assisted by crew last - other passengers may already be helping them but crew cannot until main passenger flow has ceased. This is to ensure several things.

One a crew member needs to remain at their door repeating evacuation commands so passenger know what to do.
COME THIS WAY
allows passenger to follow the voice to an exit if visability is low as well as which exits are operating as some exits could be blocked.

FORM 2 LINES (some doors it may be just 1 line)
informs passengers to make two lines as they approach the door

JUMP AND SIT
informs passengers how to use the exit

Crew also need to ensure there is a steady flow at all times at their door. If someone freezes - they will be struck at the knees to keep the flow.

Once the main flow has stopped then crew can help those who can't help themselves using an available ABP to get them to the door. Sitting down with the passenger on the crew members lap with their arms under the passengers arm pits they both go down the slide.

If you have exposed skin or use your hands to balance or slow down you could possibly get BURNT. There are deceleration pads at the bottom of the slide to help slow you down so don't put your hands out. Although it's very easily done, when I did it in a trainer my natural reaction was to balance myself and used my hand - it hurt!

Originally Posted by Rabidstoat
Also curious about the pilots. Do they exit the cockpit and go out the slides in the passenger section? There's not an exit for them up there in the cockpit, is there?
Again this varies from airline to airline and aircraft so this is from my experience.

In a land evacuation the First Officer goes out the first available exit and takes some paper work with him. The captain usually exits out the rear door of the aircraft. Should they not be able to exit the cockpit they have escape hatches or windows with escape decent reels to get them out. In a ditching the pilots get assigned a specific door to exit at however if they cannot get there it's any available door.

Originally Posted by frontenac551
That and the fact that I don't understand how slides turn into boats (I keep imagining the edges of the boat at the stern and bow getting in the way of sliding down when it is acting as slide). Or are there two things in each door (a slide and a boat) - which seems wrong?
The slide is also a raft however some doors because of their design or location are just slides only. In a ditching the slide simply opens out onto the sea and is now a raft. Once the evacuation is complete the crew member lifts up a flap to release the raft from the aircraft. A further attachment needs to be cut to move away from the aircraft but this automatically snaps when a certain amount of pressure is applied (like the aircraft sinking).

The raft capacity varies anywhere from 30 up to 60. The raft has a canopy to protect you from the weather as well as a hole to collect rain water. A survival pack is attached and contains:
Immediate action sheet
Day/Night distress flares
Heliograph signaling mirror
First aid equipment/supplies
Survival manual
Knife
Whistle
1L of water
Sponges
Bailer
Sea marker dye
Torches
Leak stoppers
Raft Management Guide
There is also a hand pump to keep the raft inflated. At the very front and rear left hand doors are beacons which the crew member must take and place in the water. These transmit various signals for 48 hours. There is also a sea anchor to stop the raft from drifting.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by Steve M

I don't know why using the cockpit window as an exit would not work in such a situation, but somebody felt it was important enough to add the exit hatch to the roof.
The roof hatch has another useful purpose. When the German Soccer team arrived back in Frankfurt from World Soccer Championship Japan/Korea someone of the crew opened the hatch climbed half through it and and hold a German Flag in his hand. I know this isn't the reason they put this hatch in.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by Steve M
I remember at some point one airline had these installed as an anti-hijacking measure, under the theory that if the airplane was hijacked and landed (such as for re-fueling), the cockpit crew could bail out through the roof hatch to remove the possibility of taking off again from the hijackers' set of options. This was controversial at the time, as people had mixed feelings about the cockpit crew abandoning the ship with hijacked passengers aboard.
This wasn't a hypothetical, it actually happened: Pan Am 73 . Also.
There wasn't really any controversy - removing the pilots is an effective way of disabling an aircraft.

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by gglave
"Passengers of Size", i.e. obese pax. Note that on most airlines they're referred to as "COS"es ("Customers of Size") not "POS"es.
Thank you for the clarification. "POS" is also used to mean something highly derogatory. I was trying to give birdstrike the benefit of the doubt, so I didn't want to over-react.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by FoPAA
This wasn't a hypothetical, it actually happened: Pan Am 73 . Also.
There wasn't really any controversy - removing the pilots is an effective way of disabling an aircraft.
Except now the hijackers can fly the plane themselves and hijack in midair. So short of the captain swallowing the key or throwing it out the window, in which case the plane turns itself off and everyone dies anyway, there's no easy way to disable a plane.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by stupidhead
Except now the hijackers can fly the plane themselves and hijack in midair. So short of the captain swallowing the key or throwing it out the window, in which case the plane turns itself off and everyone dies anyway, there's no easy way to disable a plane.
Yes, but prior the 9/11, hijackers 'generally' weren't suicidal. So the mantra in those days was 1) agree to their demands 2) get the plane on the ground 3) make sure it stays on the ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_hijacking
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by stupidhead
Except now the hijackers can fly the plane themselves and hijack in midair. So short of the captain swallowing the key or throwing it out the window, in which case the plane turns itself off and everyone dies anyway, there's no easy way to disable a plane.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by eoinnz
When performing our safety demo we are scanning the aircraft for ABPs or able bodied passengers. This are people we think will be of assistance in an emergency like being able to move passengers. Should something happen I already know where to look so I can call for help and it's most likely I'll be given the assistance if asked. We know which passengers require that extra assistance.
Thank you for this detailed response. How do you know which passengers require extra assistance? Is it on the manifest, or in your heads from observing passengers boarding?
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 2:54 pm
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Having evacuated a plane, no matter how orderly, I can assure you it is rather terrifying. Jumping into that slide is a long way down, which is why so many people tend to end up with broken bones from the evacuation. When you look down into the slide your natural tendency is to want to crouch down and scoot into it but you have to jump into it, at which point you just say, what the hell, I have no choice and do it.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 3:13 pm
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How To Escape Down An Airplane Slide and Still Make Your Connection

Time.com just published an article yesterday on the "proper" way to evacuate an airplane via the slide.

Here's an excerpt:
Emergency airplane evacuations happen more often than most people think: about once every 11 days in the U.S., according to a 2000 report by the National Transportation Safety Board. Some situations are more dire than others, of course, as when the plane is on fire, but in many cases, the biggest challenge of an evacuation can be the airplane slide.
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Last week at Heathrow Airport, when 136 passengers had to get off a British Airways Boeing 777 that had crashed short of the runway, they did it by escaping down the eight slides unfurled at the plane's exits. The deplaning, like the landing itself, was very successful, with no fatalities and only a handful of injuries.

The investigation won't be done for months, but it is likely that some of those injuries happened during the evacuation not the initial crash. Even in controlled drills, accidents are common. When the new, supersized Airbus A380 underwent mandatory evacuation tests in 2006, 33 of the 873 evacuating volunteers got hurt. One suffered a broken leg, and the remaining 32 received slide burns. And that was considered a success.
The complete article, which is worth a read IMO, can be found here.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by fairviewroad
Thank you for the clarification. "POS" is also used to mean something highly derogatory. I was trying to give birdstrike the benefit of the doubt, so I didn't want to over-react.
Thank you. I never use POS in the derogatory sense since I wasn't brought up that way. Nonetheless, your point is well taken and I will endeavor to use COS henceforth. @:-)
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Katja
Thank you for this detailed response. How do you know which passengers require extra assistance? Is it on the manifest, or in your heads from observing passengers boarding?
It's usually an observation from boarding as they board first and in particular if they are completely immobile would of required assistance moving from aisle chair to the seat. Generally immobile passengers are placed at the nearest non exit row to a door so they can be easily evacuated.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 4:49 pm
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What do you do if you have an infant or toddler with you?
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by WillTravel
What do you do if you have an infant or toddler with you?
Infants you would carry and hold them as you slide. Toddlers you would either pick up or hold hand and drag then either slide with them on your lap otherwise their going down on their own. It's hard enough going down by yourself - it's unfortunately gonna be very difficult taking a infant or toddler with you. In a prepared ditching infant lifejackets are available.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by eoinnz
Generally immobile passengers are placed at the nearest non exit row to a door so they can be easily evacuated.
That has not generally been my experience, but I may be flying on the wrong airlines.
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