"Can you just climb over me? I don't feel like moving."
Jan 11, 2008, 3:55 pm
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And I always feel guilty getting up; I try to get up when the person in the middle seat is getting up anyway. Still, the guy that the OP encountered is a jerk.
Jan 11, 2008, 9:15 pm
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I don't know that refusing to get up is as inconsiderate to others as just stupid for yourself, given the obvious likelihood that someone will step on you/fall/spill something/etc.
Jan 11, 2008, 9:25 pm
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Jan 11, 2008, 10:41 pm
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I felt guilty enough on a recent JFK-LAX flight when I semi woke when my seatmate was climbing over me to get back to her seat. I told her she should have woken me but she wouldn't dream of it.
Jan 12, 2008, 1:26 am
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Jan 12, 2008, 1:34 am
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On a recent flight, I was stuck in the back on a A319. I had a window with someone in both the middle and aisle. I got up to use the bathroom, and the guy on the aisle wouldn't get up, but asked me to just climb over him.
I told him that I would have to also climb over the woman in the middle, so it would be great...for both of us, if you'd get up. He did begrudingly, but outright refused when I got back. I'm 6'2", so climbing over anyone is a hassle at best - I'd never seen this on any of my flights before. You'd think that someone that's on the aisle has the understanding that he/she may have to move for their two next door neighbors at some point.
Luckily, the helpful FA sternly asked the guy to move...agian, he was angry that he'd be requested to do something so outlandish.
I told him that I would have to also climb over the woman in the middle, so it would be great...for both of us, if you'd get up. He did begrudingly, but outright refused when I got back. I'm 6'2", so climbing over anyone is a hassle at best - I'd never seen this on any of my flights before. You'd think that someone that's on the aisle has the understanding that he/she may have to move for their two next door neighbors at some point.
Luckily, the helpful FA sternly asked the guy to move...agian, he was angry that he'd be requested to do something so outlandish.
Some people just don't belong on an airplane or among civilized society.
I think you found one of them in the aisle seat.
Jan 12, 2008, 5:18 am
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I had the same exact experience on a Royal Air Maroc 737 from Casablanca to Dakar. I had the window and there were to Senegalese in the aisle and middle seats. I kind of waited a sec for them to get up, but they didn't so I just climbed over them. Im 6'4" and 230 pounds so...it was kind of awkward but they didn't care. Talk about my first introduction to a new concept of personal space...
Jan 12, 2008, 8:32 am
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I've climbed over my husband in Coach- no reason I couldn't climb over someone else with their consent. I like the window seat for the scenery and occasionally I get nice photos. The main difficulty in Coach is climbing over someone without putting a lot of weight on the seat back in front of me as I steady myself. (I believe there are whole other threads on that.)
It's one of the perils of the Window seat, just as having to move when people exit is a peril of the Aisle and Middle seats.
It's one of the perils of the Window seat, just as having to move when people exit is a peril of the Aisle and Middle seats.
Jan 12, 2008, 11:23 am
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Oh yeah, I've never had a problem. I'm usually sound asleep before take off. VX makes it even easier with their lighting -- barely need the eyemask. I'm 5'3 so I think that helps. But I'm also one of those who could sleep standing up. Saves my sanity on long hauls.
Jan 12, 2008, 11:40 am
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My response (actually used onboard UA): "NO, you are going to HAVE TO get up. If you don't want to, we can let the flight attendant settle our disagreement!!" He did get up.
Jan 12, 2008, 4:56 pm
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Could be the best response to anything ever said on any message board anywhere at any time since the invention of the Internet.
You do know that this line of thought makes you sound no better than the idiot that the OP encountered? Just making sure.
One reason (of many) that I prefer a window seat is to make sure that other people in the cabin can't keep that specific window shade open.
NRT/LAX and NRT/SFO come to mind... it's essentially a daytime redeye, and there's always one clown in the cabin who insists on keeping the window shade open. By securing a window seat, I know there's at least 1 less set of open window shades.
NRT/LAX and NRT/SFO come to mind... it's essentially a daytime redeye, and there's always one clown in the cabin who insists on keeping the window shade open. By securing a window seat, I know there's at least 1 less set of open window shades.
Jan 12, 2008, 6:35 pm
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In my eyes, the idiot is the guy who refuses to close his window shades on a flight, even when he's sleeping, and other people are either trying to sleep or trying to watch a movie.
One open window shade lights the whole cabin, and makes it hard for those nearby to see the IFE screens.
On a transpac such as NRT/LAX or NRT/SFO, when there's nothing to see but the same water for 9 hours, it just doesn't make sense.
Fortunately most FAs will close their window shades for them the moment they fall asleep, even if they turned down requests to close them when they were awake.
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Jan 12, 2008, 6:47 pm
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