FF totally unaware to the process
#16
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: ECExec, SPGTitanium,, UAPlat
Posts: 430
My new FYer friends,
Reading your posts i.e. opinions makes me a little sad. You are absolutely right, we (mainly newbies) are are unaware to the process, if that is to whom you are referring. I personally preferred to learn and overcome that ignorance, searching opportunities to join what could be an adventageous support group.
I joined FT and FF to learn from the best. I apologize in advance if I am one to which you are referring. I just want to be one that can claim, being a member of FT and FF gave me the knowledge to be aware of the process and enabled me to help others that come along.
I am grateful for each of you! Never grow weary in doing good! It is apprecated!
Nancy
Reading your posts i.e. opinions makes me a little sad. You are absolutely right, we (mainly newbies) are are unaware to the process, if that is to whom you are referring. I personally preferred to learn and overcome that ignorance, searching opportunities to join what could be an adventageous support group.
I joined FT and FF to learn from the best. I apologize in advance if I am one to which you are referring. I just want to be one that can claim, being a member of FT and FF gave me the knowledge to be aware of the process and enabled me to help others that come along.
I am grateful for each of you! Never grow weary in doing good! It is apprecated!
Nancy
#17
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,110
My new FYer friends,
Reading your posts i.e. opinions makes me a little sad. You are absolutely right, we (mainly newbies) are are unaware to the process, if that is to whom you are referring. I personally preferred to learn and overcome that ignorance, searching opportunities to join what could be an adventageous support group.
I joined FT and FF to learn from the best. I apologize in advance if I am one to which you are referring. I just want to be one that can claim, being a member of FT and FF gave me the knowledge to be aware of the process and enabled me to help others that come along.
I am grateful for each of you! Never grow weary in doing good! It is apprecated!
Nancy
Reading your posts i.e. opinions makes me a little sad. You are absolutely right, we (mainly newbies) are are unaware to the process, if that is to whom you are referring. I personally preferred to learn and overcome that ignorance, searching opportunities to join what could be an adventageous support group.
I joined FT and FF to learn from the best. I apologize in advance if I am one to which you are referring. I just want to be one that can claim, being a member of FT and FF gave me the knowledge to be aware of the process and enabled me to help others that come along.
I am grateful for each of you! Never grow weary in doing good! It is apprecated!
Nancy
Cheers.
#18
In Memoriam
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Easton, CT, USA
Programs: ua prem exec, Former hilton diamond
Posts: 31,801
No Nancy, not people like you.
You wouldn't be here you were not interested in this.
We (or at least I am) are talking about people who don't even know there is such a thing as a frequent flyer program, pay for business class when they fly enough in a month to upgrade every flight with miles, book the cheapest room in the hotel because they don't know if they signed up for a card they could pay for the cheapest and get one of the best, as they could be top tier in two months.
I'm referring to people who don't even know there are ff programs, think the lounges are for employees only, and believe even if they are the first person to reserve a seat on a flight and the computer gives them a middle seat in the last row, well that's what they will keep.
They are probably afraid of the automated check in machines, and probably have somebody else book their hotel and car rentals (never using a discount code) for them. They are the people travel agents absolutly love.
You wouldn't be here you were not interested in this.
We (or at least I am) are talking about people who don't even know there is such a thing as a frequent flyer program, pay for business class when they fly enough in a month to upgrade every flight with miles, book the cheapest room in the hotel because they don't know if they signed up for a card they could pay for the cheapest and get one of the best, as they could be top tier in two months.
I'm referring to people who don't even know there are ff programs, think the lounges are for employees only, and believe even if they are the first person to reserve a seat on a flight and the computer gives them a middle seat in the last row, well that's what they will keep.
They are probably afraid of the automated check in machines, and probably have somebody else book their hotel and car rentals (never using a discount code) for them. They are the people travel agents absolutly love.
#19
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Land of ORD
Programs: AA Plat UA Premier
Posts: 9,154
Back in the 80s and early 90s I never cared about the miles. Each year I would get enough miles to get a free ticket on at least 3 airlines. Sine I went to different cities all the time I would go by fare and schedule.
I would just give the free single tickets to my Mom who loved to travel. The free tickets seemed so out of reach. 20,000 miles was at least 10 trips. And why would I go on vacation on a different airline than my wife?
I know better now about the miles but we now have few choices on what airline to take as most of them are gone.
I would just give the free single tickets to my Mom who loved to travel. The free tickets seemed so out of reach. 20,000 miles was at least 10 trips. And why would I go on vacation on a different airline than my wife?
I know better now about the miles but we now have few choices on what airline to take as most of them are gone.
#20
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: GNV which is not where we would like to be :)
Programs: ABP, Mr. Mom without the kids, Signor Mucci, DL PM, HH & Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 4,526
I've two friends in DE who travel a good deal. One tries to stay with one carrier and the other is oblivious to what awaits when using one carrier. Neither had joined any FF program and when faced with a long layover would pay for a day pass to a club. They were unaware of FlyerTalk until I mentioned the benefits to be gained here.
#21
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: California
Programs: AS,WN,UA,B6,hotels
Posts: 4,239
Someone who travels that much can still not be limited to one hotel or airline or anything else, but reap the benefits of award tickets etc.. Just pick a small number of airlines programs that cover (through partnerships and alliances) all of the airlines flown. That may result in awards and status on multiple airlines after a while. With hotels, that may be harder, but a heavy traveler will still likely be able to get hotel awards even if s/he is not loyal to any one hotel chain.
#22
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CLT
Posts: 7,249
I'd call them my coworkers.
I went from 0 on United to Premier Executive on United in 9 months. This year I'll be gold on Delta and 1P on United again 95% from work.
Some of the people in my position don't even make silver in 1 program.
I went from 0 on United to Premier Executive on United in 9 months. This year I'll be gold on Delta and 1P on United again 95% from work.
Some of the people in my position don't even make silver in 1 program.
#23
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,275
A few years ago, I told a talkative seat mate about ff programs. The grandma had a "why bother" expresstion but then said "here's my boarding pass, order yourself some magazines and order some for me, too" So I got the Wall Street Journal and sent her several beauty and travel magazines. I just ran across her card today. Thank you, Beverly H. I'm almost certain that you won't see this unless you've turned into a ff junkie.
#24
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NL
Programs: FB M&M AA Amex HH SPG and others
Posts: 1,929
I'd call them that too. When one of them starts flying, I opened a FF-account on his behalf. Besides the points for flying, he received bonuses for filled in questionaries, getting bonuses for getting some creditcard (and after shortly using it, turning it down) and then he didn't have flights for quite some time (6 months or so), so he finally decided to quit the FF-program because he didn't want to get so many emails from the airline (which he could easily get rid off, with filter or with checking the boxes again in his profile).
He had enough miles for a ticket...
He had enough miles for a ticket...
#26
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,275
At times, the priority bags come out earlier. The cynical may point out that during labor troubles, there have been reports that CO workers purposely delayed putting elite members' bags until near the end of unloading in order to damage the airline's reputation. Evil!
#27
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SEA
Programs: AS
Posts: 325
I'd call them that too. When one of them starts flying, I opened a FF-account on his behalf. Besides the points for flying, he received bonuses for filled in questionaries, getting bonuses for getting some creditcard (and after shortly using it, turning it down) and then he didn't have flights for quite some time (6 months or so), so he finally decided to quit the FF-program because he didn't want to get so many emails from the airline (which he could easily get rid off, with filter or with checking the boxes again in his profile).
He had enough miles for a ticket...
He had enough miles for a ticket...
#28
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: ECExec, SPGTitanium,, UAPlat
Posts: 430
Thanks Mike, I needed some encouragement. I really mean I want to learn so that I can help others just as you all are doing with me. Thanks for the extended grace! I needed it!
I only have two weeks left until my trip better get digging to see how I can make it special.
Nancy
I only have two weeks left until my trip better get digging to see how I can make it special.
Nancy
#29
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Denver
Programs: UA 1K in training
Posts: 2,107
He flies every quarter from NYC to Germany (in J) for corporate meetings and at least once every two months from NYC to LAX and NYC to MIA (in Y) and numerous other trips between. He was totally unaware that if he flew with one airline the perks that could be stowed upon him if he reaches top level elite (which he probably could). UPGs, lounge access, and priority treatment seemed to be unknown to him. Moreover, he did not seem to care about these things. To him flying was getting from Point A to Point B and nothing else. He would not know a 747 from a 737.
I can't imagine not knowing/caring what kind of plane I was on, though.
#30
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Fort Worth, Tx
Programs: My views are strictly my own and do not reflect the views of any company.
Posts: 339
You would be astounded as to how many people don't have any clue what their miles entitle them to. I speak..daily..to people who have 100k + miles and say..
Um, what is that good for..what does that mean..can I get gifts..la la la.
Um, what is that good for..what does that mean..can I get gifts..la la la.