Airplane speed
#16
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Actually, on my last jetBlue flight, the F/O made a big speech before the flight in which she promised to put the pedal to the metal, and she said something about "bootin' and scootin'", whatever that means.
I wish that I had taped the speech.
However, I didn't take her statements literally. I just thought she was a tad nutty.
And after all the bootin' and scootin' we ended up getting diverted with a 5 hour delay on the ground.
I wish that I had taped the speech.However, I didn't take her statements literally. I just thought she was a tad nutty.
And after all the bootin' and scootin' we ended up getting diverted with a 5 hour delay on the ground.
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I often find the last QF domestic flight of the day is a good 10 minutes quicker (on a 50 minute flight) to 15 minutes quicker (on a 80 minute flight) than the rest. Most of this extra time is gained while in the air.
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considering it takes 45 minutes to load the darn thing...and 12 to 15 minutes to get off.....are we really that concerned about shaving a few minutes off an 8 hour flight....even less concerned about saving time on a 16 hour epic to sydney. figuring immigration, baggage and getting past the hotel hawkers...i find a few more minutes in the airplane...almost refreshing !!!
when you have time to spare....go by air.
when you have time to spare....go by air.
#20




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That's a big part of why Boeing's Sonic Cruiser concept was eventually ditched .......Much better, from the airlines' point of view, to put the same technology improvements into lower fuel consumption at the speeds we fly at today. (Many FT posters got this right before Boeing figured it out.)
Another factor not mentioned yet is that early jet-powered airliners used turbojet engines, whereas more recent ones use turbofans. Turbofans use less fuel for a given amount of thrust, but work best at slightly lower speeds.
Turbofans came along within a year or two of the introduction of these aircraft, and were so much better that most of the original aircraft were re-engined in short order. It must have been costly but even at 1960s fuel prices it was worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Efrem
That's a big part of why Boeing's Sonic Cruiser concept was eventually ditched .......Much better, from the airlines' point of view, to put the same technology improvements into lower fuel consumption at the speeds we fly at today. (Many FT posters got this right before Boeing figured it out.)

