*n00b alert* How'd I do on my booking?
May 8, 2007, 1:25 am
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*n00b alert* How'd I do on my booking?
Booked KSAN-EFHK (san diego-helsinki) via orbitz.com. Flying biz class.
Route To Helsinki July 25-26:
KSAN-KSFO: UA 900
KSFO-EDDF: UA 900(???)
EDDF-EFHK: AY 822
Route From Helsinki August 9:
EFHK-EDDM: LH Cityline 3111
EDDM-KSFO: LH 458
KSFO-KSAN: LH 9222 (operated by UA duh)
Did I do ok or will I be screwed on this routing? Just curious
Route To Helsinki July 25-26:
KSAN-KSFO: UA 900
KSFO-EDDF: UA 900(???)
EDDF-EFHK: AY 822
Route From Helsinki August 9:
EFHK-EDDM: LH Cityline 3111
EDDM-KSFO: LH 458
KSFO-KSAN: LH 9222 (operated by UA duh)
Did I do ok or will I be screwed on this routing? Just curious
May 8, 2007, 5:16 am
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HTB.
May 8, 2007, 9:09 am
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Same here. At first I was confused what airports were "KSAN" and "KSFO". I (and probably many others here) know San Diego as "SAN", etc...
The reason your flight from SFO-SAN is "LH9222 - operated by UA" is that the actual aircraft is a UA plane, but LH is selling some of it's seats as a LH "flight". I bet once you get to SFO, that same flight will say "UA###", "LH9222", "US###" - and maybe other "flights". I have seen my CO flight at IAH say "CO###", "DL###", "NW###", "AF###", "KL###" and other "flights" - but there was only 1 aircraft at the gate!
That is what is meant by an airline alliance. This way an airline can "fly" to a city they normally don't fly to. LH may not fly to SAN or PVD, but they may put an LH flight number on a UA or US flight. AF may not fly to ALB or ELP, but they may put a AF flight number on a DL or CO flight.
Some people may not want to fly on NW and connect to KL, but if they can purchase a NW "flight" from ROC-MAD (I'm just picking any cities), they may fly NW - even though a portion is on a KL aircraft!
The reason your flight from SFO-SAN is "LH9222 - operated by UA" is that the actual aircraft is a UA plane, but LH is selling some of it's seats as a LH "flight". I bet once you get to SFO, that same flight will say "UA###", "LH9222", "US###" - and maybe other "flights". I have seen my CO flight at IAH say "CO###", "DL###", "NW###", "AF###", "KL###" and other "flights" - but there was only 1 aircraft at the gate!
That is what is meant by an airline alliance. This way an airline can "fly" to a city they normally don't fly to. LH may not fly to SAN or PVD, but they may put an LH flight number on a UA or US flight. AF may not fly to ALB or ELP, but they may put a AF flight number on a DL or CO flight.
Some people may not want to fly on NW and connect to KL, but if they can purchase a NW "flight" from ROC-MAD (I'm just picking any cities), they may fly NW - even though a portion is on a KL aircraft!
May 8, 2007, 10:53 am
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Is it really that hard to figure out? There are two common codes to identify an airport IATA and ICAO. IATA is the common way on this board, but the only difference between IATA and ICAO in most cases (United States) is ICAO adds a prefix K.
May 8, 2007, 10:57 am
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To the OP: What is the price for this itinerary? That will be the 'good deal or not' deciding factor. I see it is mostly *A except for the Finnair flight. Finnair does a good job on their short haul flights.
May 8, 2007, 11:00 am
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EDDF = FRA
EFHK = HEL
EDDM = MUC
May 8, 2007, 11:01 am
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Good guess. I was more addressing the SAN/SFO point, but yes when we start talking about international airports IACO and IATA are going to differ significantly. IACO assigns each country a prefix, the U.S. is K, France for example is "LF" so CDG is LFPG.
May 8, 2007, 7:48 pm
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Sorry guys, I'm a Private Pilot so I instinctively use ICAO codes. It won't happen again, I promise!
The total with tax was 3200 USD.
Also sorry about flight times but I figured those would be unnecessary. In any case, here they are:
Going:
UA 900: Dep 10:55 Arr 12:20 *PST*
UA 900 (SFO-FRA): Dep 13:53 *PST* Arr 9:45 *GMT+3?*
AY 822 (FRA-HEL): Dep 10:45 *GMT+3?* Arr 14:10 *GMT+4?*
Coming:
LH 3111: Dep 13:05 *GMT+4* Arr 14:35 *GMT+3?*
LH 458: Dep 15:50 *GMT+3* Arr 18:40 *PST*
LH 9222: Dep 20:00 *PST* Arr 21:25 *PST*
The total with tax was 3200 USD.
Also sorry about flight times but I figured those would be unnecessary. In any case, here they are:
Going:
UA 900: Dep 10:55 Arr 12:20 *PST*
UA 900 (SFO-FRA): Dep 13:53 *PST* Arr 9:45 *GMT+3?*
AY 822 (FRA-HEL): Dep 10:45 *GMT+3?* Arr 14:10 *GMT+4?*
Coming:
LH 3111: Dep 13:05 *GMT+4* Arr 14:35 *GMT+3?*
LH 458: Dep 15:50 *GMT+3* Arr 18:40 *PST*
LH 9222: Dep 20:00 *PST* Arr 21:25 *PST*
May 8, 2007, 8:57 pm
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May 8, 2007, 9:07 pm
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May 8, 2007, 9:57 pm
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May 8, 2007, 10:13 pm
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But you definitely have the advantage of being in biz class, which should offer shorter lines and less waiting!
May 8, 2007, 10:17 pm
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Yeah, I don't want to cause any undue worry, but to be honest, I'm surprised the airlines offer a 1 hour connection. Remember that since both Germany and Finland are Schengen countries, you'll need to clear immigration in Frankfurt (and change terminals).
But you definitely have the advantage of being in biz class, which should offer shorter lines and less waiting!
But you definitely have the advantage of being in biz class, which should offer shorter lines and less waiting!
May 8, 2007, 10:25 pm
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I have also seen ICAO codes used to denote private/general aviation (e.g. flying out of a private airport in Los Angeles = KLAX)
May 9, 2007, 6:31 am
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