Consular Assitance
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Consular Assitance
Okay, so a weird, but quick question. I know if you are a dual citizen and enter one of your countries of citizenship you are not entitled to the consular protections of the other country. But what about if you enter a third country?
Here's my example.
J'ai un Aussie passport and a US passport.
If I enter Israel on my Aussie passport (stamps, etc.), will the US Embassy still provide me Consular Assistance if I need it? Will the Israelis give me access to the US Embassy if anything goes wrong? Or only to the Australian embassy?
Also, by the way, any advice on whether I'm better off entering Israel on my well-used Aussie passport which has lots of stamps from boring places as well as a few fun ones (China, Russia, South America), or on my completely empty (save for US stamps) US passport? The reason I ask is that I plan to travel to Dubai in a few months and want to recieve the least harassment in both places, so would appreciate recommendations on which passport to use where.
Here's my example.
J'ai un Aussie passport and a US passport.
If I enter Israel on my Aussie passport (stamps, etc.), will the US Embassy still provide me Consular Assistance if I need it? Will the Israelis give me access to the US Embassy if anything goes wrong? Or only to the Australian embassy?
Also, by the way, any advice on whether I'm better off entering Israel on my well-used Aussie passport which has lots of stamps from boring places as well as a few fun ones (China, Russia, South America), or on my completely empty (save for US stamps) US passport? The reason I ask is that I plan to travel to Dubai in a few months and want to recieve the least harassment in both places, so would appreciate recommendations on which passport to use where.
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Originally Posted by stevenshev
Okay, so a weird, but quick question. I know if you are a dual citizen and enter one of your countries of citizenship you are not entitled to the consular protections of the other country. But what about if you enter a third country?
Here's my example.
J'ai un Aussie passport and a US passport.
If I enter Israel on my Aussie passport (stamps, etc.), will the US Embassy still provide me Consular Assistance if I need it? Will the Israelis give me access to the US Embassy if anything goes wrong? Or only to the Australian embassy?
Also, by the way, any advice on whether I'm better off entering Israel on my well-used Aussie passport which has lots of stamps from boring places as well as a few fun ones (China, Russia, South America), or on my completely empty (save for US stamps) US passport? The reason I ask is that I plan to travel to Dubai in a few months and want to recieve the least harassment in both places, so would appreciate recommendations on which passport to use where.
Here's my example.
J'ai un Aussie passport and a US passport.
If I enter Israel on my Aussie passport (stamps, etc.), will the US Embassy still provide me Consular Assistance if I need it? Will the Israelis give me access to the US Embassy if anything goes wrong? Or only to the Australian embassy?
Also, by the way, any advice on whether I'm better off entering Israel on my well-used Aussie passport which has lots of stamps from boring places as well as a few fun ones (China, Russia, South America), or on my completely empty (save for US stamps) US passport? The reason I ask is that I plan to travel to Dubai in a few months and want to recieve the least harassment in both places, so would appreciate recommendations on which passport to use where.
. IIRC Israel is a country where you can request they not stamp your passport as they are aware that some countries will not permit you to enter with Israeli stamps. Dubai I believe *can* be one of those countries....
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Originally Posted by stevenshev
Okay, so a weird, but quick question. I know if you are a dual citizen and enter one of your countries of citizenship you are not entitled to the consular protections of the other country. But what about if you enter a third country?
Here's my example.
J'ai un Aussie passport and a US passport.
If I enter Israel on my Aussie passport (stamps, etc.), will the US Embassy still provide me Consular Assistance if I need it? Will the Israelis give me access to the US Embassy if anything goes wrong? Or only to the Australian embassy?
Also, by the way, any advice on whether I'm better off entering Israel on my well-used Aussie passport which has lots of stamps from boring places as well as a few fun ones (China, Russia, South America), or on my completely empty (save for US stamps) US passport? The reason I ask is that I plan to travel to Dubai in a few months and want to recieve the least harassment in both places, so would appreciate recommendations on which passport to use where.
Here's my example.
J'ai un Aussie passport and a US passport.
If I enter Israel on my Aussie passport (stamps, etc.), will the US Embassy still provide me Consular Assistance if I need it? Will the Israelis give me access to the US Embassy if anything goes wrong? Or only to the Australian embassy?
Also, by the way, any advice on whether I'm better off entering Israel on my well-used Aussie passport which has lots of stamps from boring places as well as a few fun ones (China, Russia, South America), or on my completely empty (save for US stamps) US passport? The reason I ask is that I plan to travel to Dubai in a few months and want to recieve the least harassment in both places, so would appreciate recommendations on which passport to use where.
FWIW or not worth, DXB immigration hasn't cared to check for Israeli stamps on many of our entries recently; and last month they even actively skipped over Israeli stamps in US and UK passports.
The UAE (Dubai) could care less if you use an Australian or US passport to enter. But the UAE establishment is more closely aligned with the US than with Australia; and influence of senior current and former US officials is greater in Dubia than current and former Australian officials' influence. US influence vis-a-vis Israel is greater too. So I guess that would mean use the US passport in both places and avoid getting the Israeli stamp out of an "abundance of caution" -- "caution" that's not even necessary for most when it comes to visiting or transiting Dubai.
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1. If you request, when entering Israel, they will not stamp your passport, they will stamp a special piece of paper that you will have to keep with you until you depart.
2. Even with Israeli stamps DXB doesn't care as long as you have a US passport. Traveling on an Israeli passport is another story.
2. Even with Israeli stamps DXB doesn't care as long as you have a US passport. Traveling on an Israeli passport is another story.
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Originally Posted by stevenshev
If I enter Israel on my Aussie passport (stamps, etc.), will the US Embassy still provide me Consular Assistance if I need it? Will the Israelis give me access to the US Embassy if anything goes wrong? Or only to the Australian embassy?
If you wish to get services from any consulate in the west bank - there you might have limited access ...
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Originally Posted by TLVorbust
1. If you request, when entering Israel, they will not stamp your passport, they will stamp a special piece of paper that you will have to keep with you until you depart.
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In a more general sense, have those of you with multiple passports encountered any extra interrogation? I've been debating whether I can push back a US consulate visit for extra pages a bit by using a fresh passport. If, hypothetically, SIN basically fills up my US 48-pager and I present another passport with no stamps in it at HKG, the immigration officer will know I had to use some other document to get to that point. I just don't know whether anyone cares -- or, worse, if it's not permitted under the laws of some jurisdictions.
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Originally Posted by HLS2002
In a more general sense, have those of you with multiple passports encountered any extra interrogation? I've been debating whether I can push back a US consulate visit for extra pages a bit by using a fresh passport. If, hypothetically, SIN basically fills up my US 48-pager and I present another passport with no stamps in it at HKG, the immigration officer will know I had to use some other document to get to that point. I just don't know whether anyone cares -- or, worse, if it's not permitted under the laws of some jurisdictions.
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Originally Posted by HLS2002
In a more general sense, have those of you with multiple passports encountered any extra interrogation? I've been debating whether I can push back a US consulate visit for extra pages a bit by using a fresh passport. If, hypothetically, SIN basically fills up my US 48-pager and I present another passport with no stamps in it at HKG, the immigration officer will know I had to use some other document to get to that point. I just don't know whether anyone cares -- or, worse, if it's not permitted under the laws of some jurisdictions.
My biggest issue is too many stamps and stamped pages .... but that can be a good thing sometimes too.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
My biggest issue is too many stamps and stamped pages .... but that can be a good thing sometimes too.

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Originally Posted by pizzamiles
My old passport has the Liechtenstein stamp on the first visa page. On two occassions, I've had to explain to the immigration office that Liechtenstein is a real country. 


I was there a few times earlier this year this too, but never managed to get a stamp. How did you get your Liechtenstein stamp?
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Originally Posted by GUWonder

I was there a few times earlier this year this too, but never managed to get a stamp. How did you get your Liechtenstein stamp?
IIRC, we went to the national tourist office in "downtown" Vaduz. They do charge a small fee for this. There were quite a few people(all toursits, obviously) waiting in line to get their passports stamped!(from a country that has no immigration control!)
I was quite impressed with lady who stamped my passport. She did it very carefully and the stamp was perfectly centered on the visa page, not even off by one degree. It was the "most beautiful" stamp in my old passport... unlike how the real immigration officers who put stamps all over my passport, some even upside-down...

Edit: Google is your friend... I did a little search for you, here are some photos you may be interested in:
http://www.hobotraveler.com/181_61_l...ortstamp.shtml
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Originally Posted by pizzamiles
It was a few years ago, on my old passport. I was in Zurich on business for a couple of weeks. My local friends and I took a train and then a local bus to Liechtenstin.
IIRC, we went to the national tourist office in "downtown" Vaduz. They do charge a small fee for this. There were quite a few people(all toursits, obviously) waiting in line to get their passports stamped!(from a country that has no immigration control!)
I was quite impressed with lady who stamped my passport. She did it very carefully and the stamp was perfectly centered on the visa page, not even off by one degree. It was the "most beautiful" stamp in my old passport... unlike how the real immigration officers who put stamps all over my passport, some even upside-down...
Edit: Google is your friend... I did a little search for you, here are some photos you may be interested in:
http://www.hobotraveler.com/181_61_l...ortstamp.shtml
IIRC, we went to the national tourist office in "downtown" Vaduz. They do charge a small fee for this. There were quite a few people(all toursits, obviously) waiting in line to get their passports stamped!(from a country that has no immigration control!)
I was quite impressed with lady who stamped my passport. She did it very carefully and the stamp was perfectly centered on the visa page, not even off by one degree. It was the "most beautiful" stamp in my old passport... unlike how the real immigration officers who put stamps all over my passport, some even upside-down...

Edit: Google is your friend... I did a little search for you, here are some photos you may be interested in:
http://www.hobotraveler.com/181_61_l...ortstamp.shtml

