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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by 22wingit
It's my understanding that in cities where airlines have crew training centers, they sometimes have "open house" days where they let members of the public come and try out some of the safety training drills. They might even practice the slide sometimes. I very much doubt that they still allow non-employees in the cockpit simulators, but I don't see that there would be any security issue with the passenger cabin safety drills.

If you are interested in doing drills, perhaps you should write to the airlines' training depts. and ask about such events?
I know Lufthansa used to offer flight simulator time as one of the awards in Miles&More. I think it was something like 240K miles for a 90-minute training session.

Sadly, the closest thing they offer nowadays is Mercedes-Benz driver training at 120K for a one-day, 420K for a two-day course.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 1:11 pm
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Actually, there is approval for said venture - minus our airplane theme - in West Maui, that's been on hold for about 5 years now, held by the Rusty Harpoon restaurant's owner, Mr. Metcalf. 1 808 661 3123. He would have one. He received the go-ahead, and some loans from HSDA, as reported in the Lahaina News, 5 years or so ago, but nothing since.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by 22wingit
I very much doubt that they still allow non-employees in the cockpit simulators
CO provided exactly this experience at the DO they hosted in Houston last January. They actually scheduled their 777 simiulator for a few hours and about 50ish lucky CO OnePass members got to take turns trying to land it at HNL.

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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by AAaLot
I was thinking airlines should offer a practice area at airports when passengers could practice taking a real exit door off a simulated airplane.

Have you ever seen such an area.

How about a practice area for airplane slides?

I think this would be an extremely valauble safety training.
i've definitely thought there was value in having something like this (admittedly I was looking at the kitty play area at SLC on the way to the UA gates) ... but seriously shouldn't there be some sort of certification program for you to be permitted to sit in exit rows, e.g. that you can actually lift that 40 (?) lb door and move it onto the seats or throw it out the door depending on the plane you're on.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by flyatlanta
I would pay significantly more to use the slide during an "accident scenario".
Technically we "pay" for the chance everytime we fly
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:26 pm
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Funny thread, especially since a bunch of frequent LX flyers and LX board posters celebrated the end of the Swiss Travelclub program at a farewell party that featured an invitation by Swiss to their aviation training center including a full-fledged FA safety training. We simulated smoke in the cabin, putting out a fire in the gally, decompression and the use of oxygen masks, as well as evacuating by means of slides and rafts. We even had to put the canopy on the blown up raft, wearing inflated lifevests. Airoli showed his skills as flight attendant.

Ever since the event I like watching the FAs reaction when they give me the exit row instructions, and I answer: Don't worry, I have used these for evacuation before.

Check out this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...farewell+party

And specifically this link for pictures of the event:

http://www.flyertalk.shutterfly.com/action/
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by alex0683de
I know Lufthansa used to offer flight simulator time as one of the awards in Miles&More.
BA used to offer this on a personal basis, at a very good rate in the middle of the night. There was no BA training overnight, but the centre was still running as it was a 24 hour place also doing third party work. For that rate, you didn't get a pilot instructor, only a sim engineer - but they were more fun, anyway, allowing you to throw the sim around like it was a light aircraft.

Now, BA only do this as part of a corporate entertainment package.

However, in the UK there are still a number of commercial providers who will resell full flight sim time to individuals. The last one I did was hosted by Alteon at LTN.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by GoingAway
i've definitely thought there was value in having something like this (admittedly I was looking at the kitty play area at SLC on the way to the UA gates) ... but seriously shouldn't there be some sort of certification program for you to be permitted to sit in exit rows, e.g. that you can actually lift that 40 (?) lb door and move it onto the seats or throw it out the door depending on the plane you're on.
A gentleman I was sitting next to a few weeks ago commented on that specific thing, but also brought up the point that he tended to see the exit row seats filled with obese people who sit there presumably for the extra room.

Now, without turning this into a thread on obesity (lord knows there are plenty on that subject), he brought up a good point about them possibly having trouble opening the door and slowing down the exiting procedure.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 5:19 am
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 5:30 am
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forget about it

i read a book by a flight attendant that said it costs the airlines something like 25-$50,000 to reset an amergency door. FAs can get in big trouble if they accidentally open one< which is why they go through taht 1L,1R routine before take off/after landing they make sure each door is not armed
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 6:46 am
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I can't speak for now, but when my friend B was younger, United offered
emergency evacuation training for employees. I suggested to MP that it
offer this as a mileage award, but I didn't even get an answer.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:55 am
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I think it'd be a great idea to have a "certified" exit row flyer program. You could pay a fee, take a simulated training, and then be granted priority exit row seating for any airline that is part of the program.

Not a bad idea for a business, actually...
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 2:59 pm
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I've spent some time down at Boeing's Long Beach Training center and I've done the exit door thing, its pretty easier. For 150 bucks you can get a tour of the place and spend sometime an hour in their 717 sim. I agree though it might be a good idea, but knowing the public they'll hurt themselves and sue.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 3:22 pm
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I hear airlines are just floating in cash and can easily set up an emergency slide to play on. And hey, with the kind asininely paranoid society that we live in now, an area in every airport for people to practise sliding would just dismiss the preposterous myth that we are over-obsessed with safety.

We should have a jaws of life simulated training on every freeway, set up an area in every school where kids can practise school shooting evacuations, and we should designate a place in every city where people can practise evacuating floods.

I think this would be an extremely valauble safety training.

Originally Posted by sbm12
CO provided exactly this experience at the DO they hosted in Houston last January. They actually scheduled their 777 simiulator for a few hours and about 50ish lucky CO OnePass members got to take turns trying to land it at HNL.

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Flight simulators: What fun are toys if you can't share?
http://c3dsp.westjet.com/guest/about...KYVjPQf!435626

they used to take anyone onto their flight sims, including abrasive college kids:
http://www.mmmyeah.com/portfolio/video/wjet_lg_win.asp

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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 7:20 pm
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LOL...my husband sits by the window...i always figured I would be the one in holding out my foot holding people back while he has to pull the flipping window OUTWARD...
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