Highways in the Sky?
Sep 25, 2006 | 8:20 am
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Highways in the Sky?
How can I find the actual route my commercial flight takes?
I fly SNA-LAS all the time, but have trouble recognizing the exact route used over the San Bernardino mountains.
I understand that pilots use certain well-defined "highways" -- which to my untrained eye seem highly correlated to actual interstates. Is there a website where I can look at them?
I fly SNA-LAS all the time, but have trouble recognizing the exact route used over the San Bernardino mountains.
I understand that pilots use certain well-defined "highways" -- which to my untrained eye seem highly correlated to actual interstates. Is there a website where I can look at them?
Sep 25, 2006 | 8:28 am
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Hi
You can certainly buy the paper charts (High Level enroute charts are what you want) at any aviation retailer. I'd post a link but not sure if that would count as advertising...
Alternatively I think there is an add-on to google earth that includes airspace, you might want to search for that.
Found it - have a look at http://www.lloydbailey.net/airspace.html. I've only downloaded the UK one but presume the one for the US works as well.
cheers
You can certainly buy the paper charts (High Level enroute charts are what you want) at any aviation retailer. I'd post a link but not sure if that would count as advertising...
Alternatively I think there is an add-on to google earth that includes airspace, you might want to search for that.
Found it - have a look at http://www.lloydbailey.net/airspace.html. I've only downloaded the UK one but presume the one for the US works as well.
cheers
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Sep 25, 2006 | 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Bidkat
I understand that pilots use certain well-defined "highways" -- which to my untrained eye seem highly correlated to actual interstates. Is there a website where I can look at them?
THAT'S what the MARK is all about, except pilots say "VICTOR."
Sep 25, 2006 | 6:02 pm
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Related question: Do air routes ever intentionally follow Interstate highways? I ask because I've flown DTW-HSV-DTW many many times. The route seems to be I-75 south to CVG, right turn along I-71 to SDF, left turn along I-65 into HSV. Reverse for the northbound.
Just my imagination?
Just my imagination?
Sep 25, 2006 | 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tev9999
Related question: Do air routes ever intentionally follow Interstate highways? I ask because I've flown DTW-HSV-DTW many many times. The route seems to be I-75 south to CVG, right turn along I-71 to SDF, left turn along I-65 into HSV. Reverse for the northbound.
Just my imagination?
Just my imagination?
You can look at your flight's route at www.flightaware.com . You can view the IFR Enroute Charts ("air highways") at www.myairplane.com . Both websites are free.
Sep 25, 2006 | 11:28 pm
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In addition, there is a series of maps designed by an airline pilot. I believe they are JetTrivia charts sold by aviation supply stores. These charts correlate the Jet routes and VORs to more traditional landmarks and auto highways.
A typical jet (IFR) flight plan from SNA to LAS is the BOACH2 Standard departure from SNA over the Hector, CA VOR (HEC) and then the KAYOH4 Standard Terminal Arrival to LAS. Once over the high desert, this route runs S. of I-15.
A typical jet (IFR) flight plan from SNA to LAS is the BOACH2 Standard departure from SNA over the Hector, CA VOR (HEC) and then the KAYOH4 Standard Terminal Arrival to LAS. Once over the high desert, this route runs S. of I-15.
Sep 26, 2006 | 2:25 am
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Originally Posted by tev9999
Related question: Do air routes ever intentionally follow Interstate highways? I ask because I've flown DTW-HSV-DTW many many times. The route seems to be I-75 south to CVG, right turn along I-71 to SDF, left turn along I-65 into HSV. Reverse for the northbound.
Just my imagination?
Just my imagination?
Sep 26, 2006 | 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by J-M
No, they don't necessarily follow interstates. Some may, but it isn't designed that way. Most of them are VOR to VOR. (VOR is a type of navigation aid). Most VORs are located in major cities, which may make it seem like they follow highways (which also most often run between major cities).
You can look at your flight's route at www.flightaware.com . You can view the IFR Enroute Charts ("air highways") at www.myairplane.com . Both websites are free.
You can look at your flight's route at www.flightaware.com . You can view the IFR Enroute Charts ("air highways") at www.myairplane.com . Both websites are free.
Sep 29, 2006 | 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by topsy1970
Maps are from days of old. Nowdays, its VOR and waypoints programmed into a computer.
Sep 30, 2006 | 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by topsy1970
Maps are from days of old. Nowdays, its VOR and waypoints programmed into a computer.
Sep 30, 2006 | 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by KMHT FF
You know when Spock says "blah blah blah MARK seven" when Kirk asks him where something is?
THAT'S what the MARK is all about, except pilots say "VICTOR."
THAT'S what the MARK is all about, except pilots say "VICTOR."
*and* a Z axis, as there was no notion of altitude...
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Sep 30, 2006 | 5:02 pm
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>Do air routes ever intentionally follow Interstate highways?
I was once talking to a private pilot who had flown from LA to Vancouver. I commented that flying a Cessna probably wouldn't be that hard, but I could imagine the navigation might be tricky, to which he replied, "Naw, I just followed the I-5."
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Geoff Glave
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I was once talking to a private pilot who had flown from LA to Vancouver. I commented that flying a Cessna probably wouldn't be that hard, but I could imagine the navigation might be tricky, to which he replied, "Naw, I just followed the I-5."
Cheers,
Geoff Glave
Vancouver, Canada