Ever seen a passenger revolt during a long flight delay?
Aug 22, 2006, 1:01 pm
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Ever seen a passenger revolt during a long flight delay?
It seems like the delays are getting worse and worse every time I fly. Recently we sat for hours on the tarmac for an unknown reason after leaving the gate on time. Weather was beautiful and there was no annocement of the delay, we just sat there.
I think American travelers in Airplanes are generally very passive about delays. We just sit there and moan and groan but rarely cause a stink. I have been on some really long tarmac delays and rarely does any one say anything.
I wonder if travelers overseas, especially ones from third world countries, make a bigger stink when the plane just sits at the gate or parks at the tarmac for hours without a good explaination.
Ever seen a passenger revolt during a long flight delay?
I think American travelers in Airplanes are generally very passive about delays. We just sit there and moan and groan but rarely cause a stink. I have been on some really long tarmac delays and rarely does any one say anything.
I wonder if travelers overseas, especially ones from third world countries, make a bigger stink when the plane just sits at the gate or parks at the tarmac for hours without a good explaination.
Ever seen a passenger revolt during a long flight delay?
Aug 22, 2006, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by greenery
I have been on some really long tarmac delays and rarely does any one say anything.
Originally Posted by greenery
Ever seen a passenger revolt during a long flight delay?
Aug 22, 2006, 1:25 pm
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I was in an RJ sitting on the tarmac in Richmond for an hour+ waiting for storms to die down. I'd been travelling for 40+ hours home from India (long story) and was now a 20 minute flight (3 hour drive) from home.
Then the pilot came on and said that he was going to run out of flight time in 30 minutes and there were no pilots. Also, there were no stairways for RJ's available to deplane us. Finally, the airport staff had gone home and there were 40 jets in front of us waiting for when the staff came back and figure out how to get us out.
I very politely informed him that in 30 minutes and 15 seconds I was going to open the door and leave. He informed me that they'd have to call security and I told him that after 40 hours on an aircraft a nice quite cell sounded fine. And besides, how did he intend to get off the plane himself?
29 minutes later we left for RDU. I was horrified, the next day, to thing how close I'd come to getting arrested. I've been much cooler since.
Then the pilot came on and said that he was going to run out of flight time in 30 minutes and there were no pilots. Also, there were no stairways for RJ's available to deplane us. Finally, the airport staff had gone home and there were 40 jets in front of us waiting for when the staff came back and figure out how to get us out.
I very politely informed him that in 30 minutes and 15 seconds I was going to open the door and leave. He informed me that they'd have to call security and I told him that after 40 hours on an aircraft a nice quite cell sounded fine. And besides, how did he intend to get off the plane himself?
29 minutes later we left for RDU. I was horrified, the next day, to thing how close I'd come to getting arrested. I've been much cooler since.
Aug 22, 2006, 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by greenery
I wonder if travelers overseas, especially ones from third world countries, make a bigger stink when the plane just sits at the gate or parks at the tarmac for hours without a good explaination.
- I know people in Mozambique, Malawi or Madagascar don't really travel air - they stay on the "tarmac" all the time and they sure don't complain.Sorry for being a smart *** on this one - coulnd't resist
Aug 22, 2006, 7:08 pm
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From Third World Countries? That's a bit nasty.
Yes I've seen it happen, but it's always been people confirming the ugly american nametag. Once a couple weeks ago, where they had to open up the door (we were still at the gate) and drag the moron off.
Yes I've seen it happen, but it's always been people confirming the ugly american nametag. Once a couple weeks ago, where they had to open up the door (we were still at the gate) and drag the moron off.
Aug 22, 2006, 7:29 pm
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I am sure be it due to delays...service wise...etc...
Very sure for frequent fliers in First and Business with SQ, if given a choice, will never want to fly with any of the american and european carriers again. No worries of revolt in this case. Everything bout SQ is at least a 'good' standard !
IMO
Very sure for frequent fliers in First and Business with SQ, if given a choice, will never want to fly with any of the american and european carriers again. No worries of revolt in this case. Everything bout SQ is at least a 'good' standard !
IMO
Aug 22, 2006, 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by greenery
Recently we sat for hours on the tarmac for an unknown reason after leaving the gate on time.
Aug 22, 2006, 7:42 pm
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Why would people from 3rd world countries make more or less of a stink than people from 1st or 2nd world countries?
On that end, what qualifies as a 2nd world country?
On that end, what qualifies as a 2nd world country?
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A coworker was on such a flight.
He was flying ATL-LGA and the flight had to divert to JFK.
The pilot said that everyone would have to stay on board, while they waited to take off and fly JFK-LGA. I don't know if they also needed to refuel. The passengers were having none of that. My coworker didn't say much about the details, other than that ultimately the pilot allowed people off if they wanted to.
He was flying ATL-LGA and the flight had to divert to JFK.
The pilot said that everyone would have to stay on board, while they waited to take off and fly JFK-LGA. I don't know if they also needed to refuel. The passengers were having none of that. My coworker didn't say much about the details, other than that ultimately the pilot allowed people off if they wanted to.
Aug 22, 2006, 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by tom911
What airline do you fly?
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Aug 22, 2006, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by etch5895
Why would people from 3rd world countries make more or less of a stink than people from 1st or 2nd world countries?
On that end, what qualifies as a 2nd world country?
On that end, what qualifies as a 2nd world country?
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Aug 22, 2006, 10:25 pm
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Aug 23, 2006, 5:06 am
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That's funny.
Seems to me based on such an unfounded comment that the OP really hasn't spent that much time travelling outside the US to be making judgements about how it is anywhere else.
In fact it seems to me when in other countries it's always the nasally Americans who whine and moan the first and loudest over any small irregularity.
Must be that empowerment from all that democracy that has gained all so much respect fom others throughout the world - "Let me show them how it's to be done! Let me make this flight safe to go into the world!"
Also, is Israel a third-world country?
Many a flight crew friend refuse to work pax flight sectors involving Israel just because the ridership is so whiny.
Seems to me based on such an unfounded comment that the OP really hasn't spent that much time travelling outside the US to be making judgements about how it is anywhere else.
In fact it seems to me when in other countries it's always the nasally Americans who whine and moan the first and loudest over any small irregularity.
Must be that empowerment from all that democracy that has gained all so much respect fom others throughout the world - "Let me show them how it's to be done! Let me make this flight safe to go into the world!"
Also, is Israel a third-world country?
Many a flight crew friend refuse to work pax flight sectors involving Israel just because the ridership is so whiny.
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Aug 23, 2006, 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by Ocn Vw 1K
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Aug 23, 2006, 5:24 am
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In my experience, some West African passengers (especially the "traders") tend to be the most demanding. These are the same people who turn up with 100 kg of bags at checkin, spend the better part of 3 hours repacking, argue over the excess baggage charges, show up late to the boarding gate and then kick off a shouting match with the crew when the aircraft winds up in an ATC hold due to a missed slot.