Same flight number, plane change
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Same flight number, plane change
Why do many airlines have the same flight number with a plane change at a connecting city?
For example, Delta 817 flies EWR->ATL, then ATL->OAK on a different plane. It is obvious that it is a different plane because on July 20 2006 (according to Delta's web site flight status), the EWR->ATL segment arrived at ATL late at 7:07pm (scheduled 5:54pm), while the ATL->OAK segment departed from ATL on time at 6:45pm. Must have been annoying for those passengers who expected to be able to stay on flight 817 to continue on to OAK, only to be told that they missed their connection.
From a passenger standpoint, it just creates confusion, particularly with occasional travelers who assume that a "direct" flight does not involve a plane change. (Or someone who previously flew Southwest, where a single flight number does indeed mean that you do not have to change planes, even if it stops somewhere before reaching your final destination.)
For example, Delta 817 flies EWR->ATL, then ATL->OAK on a different plane. It is obvious that it is a different plane because on July 20 2006 (according to Delta's web site flight status), the EWR->ATL segment arrived at ATL late at 7:07pm (scheduled 5:54pm), while the ATL->OAK segment departed from ATL on time at 6:45pm. Must have been annoying for those passengers who expected to be able to stay on flight 817 to continue on to OAK, only to be told that they missed their connection.
From a passenger standpoint, it just creates confusion, particularly with occasional travelers who assume that a "direct" flight does not involve a plane change. (Or someone who previously flew Southwest, where a single flight number does indeed mean that you do not have to change planes, even if it stops somewhere before reaching your final destination.)
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Its a good question, i always wondered the same thing with the US Air flights from LGW which had the same flight number from LGW-PHL-LAS and LGW-CLT-MCO, even though they involved a plane change. At PHL this could mean insufficient time to change.
I put it down to the fact that Brits go to Vegas and Orlando as holiday destinations and a "direct" flight might encourage more bookings.
I put it down to the fact that Brits go to Vegas and Orlando as holiday destinations and a "direct" flight might encourage more bookings.
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Originally Posted by tjl
Why do many airlines have the same flight number with a plane change at a connecting city?
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Originally Posted by number_6
The reason that airlines do this is to move higher on the flight list when routings are displayed.
On the other hand, does this make much difference, since most people sort options after a flight search by either price or schedule, not whether the flight has the same flight number through a connection?
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Originally Posted by number_6
The reason that airlines do this is to move higher on the flight list when routings are displayed. This in turn increases sales for that airline. It is a dispicable practice, but legal and some airlines do it a lot more than others. They pick routes on which they are not competitive and create these "virtual" routes just for marketing purposes. It is particularly bad when the aircraft types are not compatible -- so you cannot have the same seat assignment for both legs of the same flight number!
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Beware of airlines robbing you of your miles too.
For example, if you fly CO 51 FRA-EWR-IAH-EZE, you get 7,134 miles for your 27-hr trip, instead of 3,859 + 1,415 + 5,062 = 10,336 miles. [It's a 772 for FRA-EWR, then the same 762 for EWR-IAH-EZE.]
Or CO 7 SAT-IAH-NRT-GUM. You get 7,293 miles for the 21-hr trip, instead of 500 + 6,643 + 1,558 = 8,701 miles. [738/9 for SAT-IAH, 772 for IAH-NRT, and 738 for NRT-GUM.]
For example, if you fly CO 51 FRA-EWR-IAH-EZE, you get 7,134 miles for your 27-hr trip, instead of 3,859 + 1,415 + 5,062 = 10,336 miles. [It's a 772 for FRA-EWR, then the same 762 for EWR-IAH-EZE.]
Or CO 7 SAT-IAH-NRT-GUM. You get 7,293 miles for the 21-hr trip, instead of 500 + 6,643 + 1,558 = 8,701 miles. [738/9 for SAT-IAH, 772 for IAH-NRT, and 738 for NRT-GUM.]
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Originally Posted by rkkwan
Beware of airlines robbing you of your miles too.
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Given that miles earned for "direct" flights are fewer than if the itinerary is split into separate sectors, I believe that occasionally it means that fewer 500-mile upgrade coupons can be required for some routes.
At the same time, it can make it more difficult to upgrade if both sectors aren't cleared.
At the same time, it can make it more difficult to upgrade if both sectors aren't cleared.

