Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Travel&Dining > TravelBuzz
Reload this Page >

Born during a flight

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Born during a flight

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 9:29 am
  #1  
Original Poster
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: VIENNA VA
Programs: BA emerald, AF rouge ,UA premier executive, SQ,ANA, HYATT,, AMENITI
Posts: 839
Born during a flight

What nationality does a newborn baby gets if he was born on board a plane if it was flying an international flight if it is born over the atlantic?Or over another continent?
SMART51 is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:39 am
  #2  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: just above cargo
Posts: 2,072
And would both mother and baby be entitled to FF miles?
secretbunnyboy is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:19 am
  #3  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NUE,MUC,INN,FDH
Programs: QF LTG, LH LT-SEN (HON till 02/26), AF-Plat, AB-G
Posts: 2,179
Originally Posted by SMART51
What nationality does a newborn baby gets if he was born on board a plane if it was flying an international flight if it is born over the atlantic?Or over another continent?
Depends on the nationality of the parents and the plane!
Where the plane is registered that law will apply (same on ships).
So if it is a US plane it will get the US nationality.
The country under the plane does not matter.

With most nationalities the child will get the nationality of the parents.

Example:
German parents on board an American flight:
Child will get both German and American nationalities.

But:
If you are over the the 34st week of pregnancy you are not allowed to fly.
You will probably denied boarding!
Tyrolean is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:10 pm
  #4  
Original Poster
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: VIENNA VA
Programs: BA emerald, AF rouge ,UA premier executive, SQ,ANA, HYATT,, AMENITI
Posts: 839
Originally Posted by secretbunnyboy
And would both mother and baby be entitled to FF miles?
So they must charge you a ticket for the new born
SMART51 is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:13 pm
  #5  
Original Poster
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: VIENNA VA
Programs: BA emerald, AF rouge ,UA premier executive, SQ,ANA, HYATT,, AMENITI
Posts: 839
Originally Posted by Tyrolean
Depends on the nationality of the parents and the plane!
Where the plane is registered that law will apply (same on ships).
So if it is a US plane it will get the US nationality.
The country under the plane does not matter.

With most nationalities the child will get the nationality of the parents.

Example:
German parents on board an American flight:
Child will get both German and American nationalities.

But:
If you are over the the 34st week of pregnancy you are not allowed to fly.
You will probably denied boarding!
Thank you
BTW is it true that the new born will get free tickets for life on that airline?
SMART51 is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:18 pm
  #6  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Under an ORD approach path
Programs: DL PM, MM. Coffee isn't a drug, it's a vitamin.
Posts: 12,935
Originally Posted by SMART51
So they must charge you a ticket for the new born
It will be an open-jaw, since the newborn only qualified as a passenger for the post-partum part of the journey. FF miles will be pro-rated, based on the mileage after his jaw is opened and he starts to cry.
Gargoyle is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:26 pm
  #7  
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: STL, CPS
Programs: AA LT Plat
Posts: 977
This reminds me of that George Carlin routine about confession, communion and the international date line.

"Fadda, if you was on a ship at seat,..."
sonora is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 1:09 pm
  #8  
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Exile
Posts: 16,064
The baby initially assumes the nationality of the MOTHER for immediate arrival formalities. The nationality of the father is irrelevant until a birth certificate naming him as father is prepared, which cannot be done inflight. In the event of the mother becoming deceased at delivery, the child is treated as a ward of the state whose flag operation is being conducted, and NOT that of the state whose registration is carried on the aircraft (if it is different). If the mother carries dual nationality, then the nationality of the documentation used to make the current flight is considered to be the primary citizenship. The airspace being flown over at the time of delivery is irrelevant. The aircraft and all enclosed within it is considered to be the soil of the country whose authority under which it is flying and the child *may* be entitled to that nationality depending upon individual country laws on the issue. The birth certificate will read "International Airspace" as place of birth.
B747-437B is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 3:12 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 55
How often does it happen? Usually the airlines won't let a woman in her third trimester fly for obvious reasons.
modgirl is offline  
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 7:58 pm
  #10  
Original Poster
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: VIENNA VA
Programs: BA emerald, AF rouge ,UA premier executive, SQ,ANA, HYATT,, AMENITI
Posts: 839
Originally Posted by modgirl
How often does it happen? Usually the airlines won't let a woman in her third trimester fly for obvious reasons.
I just read a story about a jordanian women giving birth on a KLM flight from Amsterdam to Chicago in 2003
SMART51 is offline  
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 7:09 am
  #11  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 55
Originally Posted by SMART51
I just read a story about a jordanian women giving birth on a KLM flight from Amsterdam to Chicago in 2003
Oh really? Interesting! My guess is that she wasn't overly large. I've seen women checking in for flights who were asked for doctor's notes because the women looked like they were very close to delivery dates.
modgirl is offline  
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 7:58 am
  #12  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: TPA
Programs: Hilton Gold, DL DIrt Medallion
Posts: 38,267
Originally Posted by modgirl
How often does it happen? Usually the airlines won't let a woman in her third trimester fly for obvious reasons.
That's not true. Delta, for instance, has no official restriction on flying at any time during pregnancy.
SRQ Guy is offline  
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 5:21 pm
  #13  
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: IAD
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Gold, Global Entry, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 707
Usually the airlines won't let a woman in her third trimester fly for obvious reasons.
I agree, this is completely untrue.
lost*in*cyberspace is offline  
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 6:41 pm
  #14  
40 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: London, England, United Kingdom
Programs: Marriott (Lifetime Titantium), whatever other programs as benefits make sense.
Posts: 2,012
Originally Posted by SMART51
I just read a story about a jordanian women giving birth on a KLM flight from Amsterdam to Chicago in 2003
I remember that story. I posted about it on another board in August of 2004, but can't find the original article. I attributed at the time to AP.
GregWTravels is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.