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Coach for every one except top tier execs then its coporate jet
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Coach for everyone, but you can upgrade yourself. Airline choice is yours. I get to keep all miles that I get from my BIS/Hotels, etc. However, the all the coprorate card purchase points are sent to the CEO's account. So no matter what (unless there are no seats), he always flies C/F. (Our entire inventory is purchased via that Credit card....so about 28-40 million points or so a year.) He commented to me once before that he had millions of excess points just laying around in various accounts. Must be nice.
Only exception is where Coach is more expensive than C. Very rare for my flying habits. |
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a. Members must be provided coach-class (economy) airline accommodations for all official business travel (including personnel evacuation) unless proper documentation/justification is provided (ordinarily before travel) and substantiated to justify premium-class transportation.[QUOTE] Authorization before travel for personnel evacuation? :D That's too much. You're at the ticket counter in the airport in some fourth world country, the city is on fire from the earthquake, the tsunami is coming, the rebel army is streaming down from the hills to take over, there is one last plane departing in an hour and there is one open F seat left. Unless you want to pay for it out of your pocket, please submit your documentation/justification in advance to a mid level bean counter on the other side of the world who will get back to you within three business days. Usually. Holidays extra.:D |
Originally Posted by suranyi
Our company's policy is also coach only, except for top management -- no matter how long the trip. However if you have miles or the elite standing to upgrade, that's your own business.
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a voice from europe: domestic and within europe y class. flights (trips) longer than 8 hrs c class. company travel agency is determining routing and airline. company gets all the miles and uses it. board members and first level management f class. corporate jet mostly used by board members.
this should be quite common for a big european company (except maybe for the miles...) |
First or Bidness? Don't make me laugh!
Originally Posted by trvlr70
Yes. I'm a lawyer and first class seating is one of the last residual benefits of the "good old days" around here. ....snappagio molto....So, the benefit is very limited as a result.
400 miles or less, and the airfare plus any necessary local transport better be less than an auto mileage reimbursement. In a "thinking" business, some of my and my associates' best "thinking" occurs while driving. The logic is simple. The profits, all of them, are mine (and my spouse's and eventually my chirrens', gone and gainfully employed elsewhere, bot only occasionally remitting payments for past considerations and previous emoluments) and the cheaper be the travel, the greater be the profit. Then, after hours, when the doors are shuttered and the office is closed (as it does twice a year for about 3 weeks, during which, even when I'm there, phone and email go unanswered, voice mail unresponded to (mostly), I piis away the profits on a better class of airline seat - but never domestic first, a real ripoff in a cost/benefit equation unless it's a free upgrade, "free" hotel rooms, "free" car rental days, etc.. I wish I had been smart enough to figure out how to work for myself at 30 instead of 55, and that I could remain healthy enough at 66 to keep doing it my way for another decade. It's certainly more fun than retirement, the best of which seems to be to play golf every day (which for me would get old after the first week). The only regrets? Great wealth might be more enjoyable, but as with the occasional good bottle of wine from the bargain bin, it's the small accomplishments which honestly bring the most pleasure (and that's why I tend to avoid domestic first class, considering for any flight of 5 hours or less, I can simply go to sleep for most of it). The best travelers I've ever known shared the greatest asset for those who must travel regularly, the ability to lean back or recline and go to sleep, no matter the comfort of the bed or the seat or the surroundings, no pillows, eyeshades, earplugs, medication, etc., simply to will oneself into somnolence. Who needs first class when capable of ignoring surroundings (although seat pitch can be not just a pain in the *ss, but a casue of stiff legs)? Free booze? My modest satchel can always hold a quartet of minatures, old ones refilled from the good stuff behind my bar. It's less the money than the principle (and the trouble of getting to my wallet and that neither I or any FA ever has the right change). |
Originally Posted by viajero7889
Ditto here...we should start a support group
Recently, I used 100,000 of my accrued miles to fly business to Europe. My coworkers thought I was nuts doing this (saving my company $1000 on a coach ticket in the process), but I just had to do it for my own well-being. |
Coach on anything domestic. If you want to pay for an upgrade or use your miles you can.
All int'l is business. No exceptions. Everything from SEA is over 8 hours (Europe/Asia) so it makes sense |
Coach/economy except:
1) critical corporate business and no other fare class available; 2) corporate exec or external bigshot we're trying to impress; 3) corporate jet; 4) international - biz class; 5) no other way to get there. Pretty standard policy compared to others I've read here. We can't even book on our corp travel site unless we have an override. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by LEX-LGA Commuter
Any segment over 4 hours qualifies for the trip to be F. So, all Intl travel is BE (for me anyway), and anything to the West coast is F.
Seriously, that seems...generous. Or maybe I am just so jaded working for my CheepCheep company. Enjoy your retirement! |
Coach/economy for flights less than 8 hr, however...
- if a refundable fare is available within $200 of the lowest economy fare available, that fare is within policy (this frequently is a discounted first class ticket on USAir "A" class when flying to leisure destinations or on days other than Mon/Thu) - we can also book Bus/First if there is "substantial business activity" required immediately after the flight. For example, taking a 4 1/2 hr red-eye from LAX to JFK for a 9am EDT meeting. |
All coach all the time here, except for CEO and president. Get to keep my miles, and can cajole the higher mammals to let me buy an upgradable fare on long-hauls to Asia. However, it's slightly easier to take (re:profit margin) as my company is employee-owned.
When my back is aching 10 hours into a 15-hour flight, I guess I take solace knowing I get to use the miles. I just cashed in my miles (90% from work travel) for business class flights to New Zealand and Rarotonga. So I have that going for me, which is nice. My friend works for the International Monetary Fund. Most liberal policy I've ever seen. He flew from DC to their annual meeting, in Dubai a few years back. They allow business for flights over 6 hours (might be 4 or 5 actually), and first for anything longer. Not only was he in first all the way, they also let you do an expensed stopover on long-hauls, so he got a couple paid days in London each way. To boot, he was a contractor and not an employee at the time! Ah, the wonders of multinational, quasi-governmental organizations accountable to no one. |
Originally Posted by venice4504
Coach on anything domestic. If you want to pay for an upgrade or use your miles you can.
All int'l is business. No exceptions. Everything from SEA is over 8 hours (Europe/Asia) so it makes sense |
Any domestic trip (regardless of where) is economy. US/Canada treated as one country.
All international trips under 9 hours: "no first class" On a three class plane this means business. On a two class this means business if it's business/coach, or coach if it's first/coach. International trips over 9 hours: "no economy" Same as above, but if it's a two class first/coach plane you get first. Train travel is permitted in "first" however. |
Originally Posted by ironmanjt
Any domestic trip (regardless of where) is economy. US/Canada treated as one country.
All international trips under 9 hours: "no first class" On a three class plane this means business. On a two class this means business if it's business/coach, or coach if it's first/coach. International trips over 9 hours: "no economy" Same as above, but if it's a two class first/coach plane you get first. Train travel is permitted in "first" however. |
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