US Inmigration outside USA?
Mar 15, 2006 | 5:43 am
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US Inmigration outside USA?
As far as I know Canada and Ireland have US inmigration in their own countries so you clear inmigrations there.
Any ideas why this is like this in Ireland and since when?
Any other US inmigrations outside the US?
Any ideas why this is like this in Ireland and since when?
Any other US inmigrations outside the US?
Mar 15, 2006 | 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by JUANMA
As far as I know Canada and Ireland have US inmigration in their own countries so you clear inmigrations there.
Any ideas why this is like this in Ireland and since when?
Any other US inmigrations outside the US?
Any ideas why this is like this in Ireland and since when?
Any other US inmigrations outside the US?
Mar 15, 2006 | 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by JUANMA
Any other US inmigrations outside the US?
Mar 15, 2006 | 1:55 pm
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A list of pre-clearance immigration sites can be found here: Preclearence locations. The countries are Canada, Bermuda, Bahamas, Aruba and Ireland.
A short note on the history of pre-clearance can be found on the US Customs and Immigration Website.
The information on Wikipedia on this topic seems to correct.
Greg
A short note on the history of pre-clearance can be found on the US Customs and Immigration Website.
The information on Wikipedia on this topic seems to correct.
Greg
Mar 15, 2006 | 2:20 pm
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The U.S. government has a sneaky pre clearance mechanism in place by way of the PISCES system that has been forced on several countries around the world.
Immigration officers in these countries feed information of all incoming and exiting passengers and take their picture (on arrival and at the time of exit). The information is then sent to a central server in the U.S. where each passengers details are checked against a list of people the U.S. government does not like.
I know of about 10 countries that have Pisces installed.
Immigration officers in these countries feed information of all incoming and exiting passengers and take their picture (on arrival and at the time of exit). The information is then sent to a central server in the U.S. where each passengers details are checked against a list of people the U.S. government does not like.
I know of about 10 countries that have Pisces installed.
Mar 15, 2006 | 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh
The U.S. government has a sneaky pre clearance mechanism in place by way of the PISCES system that has been forced on several countries around the world.
Immigration officers in these countries feed information of all incoming and exiting passengers and take their picture (on arrival and at the time of exit). The information is then sent to a central server in the U.S. where each passengers details are checked against a list of people the U.S. government does not like.
I know of about 10 countries that have Pisces installed.
Immigration officers in these countries feed information of all incoming and exiting passengers and take their picture (on arrival and at the time of exit). The information is then sent to a central server in the U.S. where each passengers details are checked against a list of people the U.S. government does not like.
I know of about 10 countries that have Pisces installed.
Mar 15, 2006 | 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by JUANMA
Any ideas why this is like this in Ireland and since when?
Mar 16, 2006 | 12:12 am
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Originally Posted by JUANMA
As far as I know Canada and Ireland have US inmigration in their own countries so you clear inmigrations there.
Any ideas why this is like this in Ireland and since when?
Any other US inmigrations outside the US?
Any ideas why this is like this in Ireland and since when?
Any other US inmigrations outside the US?
Mar 16, 2006 | 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by WRCSolberg
I always thought it was for convenience, but the reason has to be deeper than that. Could it have something to do with the turbulent times in Ireland in the 70s and 80s?
The Irish parliament website explains that the Irish airport authority (Aer Rianta) was motivated to have US immigration pre-clearance at Irish airports in order to attract business from airlines which need to make a refueling stop before hopping over the atlantic:
http://historical-debates.oireachtas...606060003.html
"Come to Shannon! Refuel and get your customers through US immigration at Shannon Airport. Forget Heathrow. Shannon rules" - that kind of thing.
Mar 16, 2006 | 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Sjoerd
Given the fact that the US government wants to know the colour of my underwear when I dare to travel to the "Land of the Free", the answer to your question is: everywhere.
Mar 23, 2006 | 9:25 am
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I don't believe Guantanamo has an airport code. I think most likely you are riding in Cargo bay of military transport plane.
Originally Posted by Fermat
If you take a flight with a US carrier from Kabul, Baghdad or Guantanamo, they probably "pre-clear" you.
Mar 23, 2006 | 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by Konsultant
I don't believe Guantanamo has an airport code. I think most likely you are riding in Cargo bay of military transport plane.
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Mar 23, 2006 | 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by MSY-MSP
Care to list which countries have PISCES?
Edit: At least 15 countries have budgets for PISCES use. As said earlier, it's status I don't know.
Last edited by GUWonder; Mar 23, 2006 at 11:09 am
Mar 23, 2006 | 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by cj001f
MUGM
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Mar 23, 2006 | 11:19 am
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I personally find that the benefit to the international traveller outweighs any possible concern about interjurisdictional "intrusiveness". If anything untoward was to happen at US Customs/Immigration -- God forbid -- I'd much prefer to be inconvenienced at YYC (where I would have a number of remedies under Canadian law) than at LAX, where I'd simply be a foreign national.