No Passport Required?
Feb 19, 2006 | 6:10 pm
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No Passport Required?
My brother and his wife are both soldiers in Iraq right now. As part of their 6-month break on their one year assignment the Army will fly them to any international airport in the world. Unfortunately, they do not have current US passports so they are limited to US Territories, and other countries/micronations that don't require a US passport to visit.
I know the rules have, and are continuing to change throughout the next two years and I've searched the internet, but I was unable to find a comprehensive list of all the places they would be able to visit without a passport in June/July of this year.
Can anybody provide me a list or point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance!
I know the rules have, and are continuing to change throughout the next two years and I've searched the internet, but I was unable to find a comprehensive list of all the places they would be able to visit without a passport in June/July of this year.
Can anybody provide me a list or point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance!
Feb 19, 2006 | 6:36 pm
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Obviously as a naive Brit I'm missing something..... It comes as a surprise to me that any country would allow another national to enter without a passport..... I suppose it happens within the EU a little....
I bet the US doesn't allow many people in without a passport - just Canadians perhaps?
Good luck anyway... hopefully you'll get some more useful answers from someone else!
I bet the US doesn't allow many people in without a passport - just Canadians perhaps?
Good luck anyway... hopefully you'll get some more useful answers from someone else!
Feb 19, 2006 | 6:42 pm
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Yeah, the US had agreements with a surprisingly large number of countries for a while there. As you can imagine, the whole "Global War on Terror" thing is bringing many of those long standing agreements to a halt. At one point, all of Central America, the Carribean, Mexico, and Canada were accessible sans US Passport. By the end of 2007 there will be no places left. I was wondering which ones have yet to be converted.
Feb 19, 2006 | 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by jimbo99
Obviously as a naive Brit I'm missing something..... It comes as a surprise to me that any country would allow another national to enter without a passport..... I suppose it happens within the EU a little....
I bet the US doesn't allow many people in without a passport - just Canadians perhaps?
Good luck anyway... hopefully you'll get some more useful answers from someone else!
I bet the US doesn't allow many people in without a passport - just Canadians perhaps?
Good luck anyway... hopefully you'll get some more useful answers from someone else!
Legally, you can still visit most of the Caribbean countries without a US passport. All it takes is an original birth certificate and photo id. As gt_croz points out, that's going away soon.
Feb 19, 2006 | 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Athena53
What about Guam and/or American Samoa? Honolulu would also be a darn nice place to visit.
What I'm looking for is the most up to date list that I can send them. Also, any suggestions from that list that you all may have as to what would be a great 2-week cheap vacation spot would be appreciated as well. Thanks again!
Feb 19, 2006 | 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by gt_croz
...without a passport in June/July of this year...
Feb 19, 2006 | 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by gt_croz
Yeah, the US Territories won't require a passport, even after the switch. Honolulu would be nice, but it's not my vacation, nor my decision What I'm looking for is the most up to date list that I can send them. Also, any suggestions from that list that you all may have as to what would be a great 2-week cheap vacation spot would be appreciated as well.
Thanks again!
What I'm looking for is the most up to date list that I can send them. Also, any suggestions from that list that you all may have as to what would be a great 2-week cheap vacation spot would be appreciated as well. Thanks again!
Feb 19, 2006 | 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by gt_croz
My brother and his wife are both soldiers in Iraq right now. As part of their 6-month break on their one year assignment the Army will fly them to any international airport in the world. Unfortunately, they do not have current US passports so they are limited to US Territories, and other countries/micronations that don't require a US passport to visit.
I know the rules have, and are continuing to change throughout the next two years and I've searched the internet, but I was unable to find a comprehensive list of all the places they would be able to visit without a passport in June/July of this year.
Can anybody provide me a list or point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance!
I know the rules have, and are continuing to change throughout the next two years and I've searched the internet, but I was unable to find a comprehensive list of all the places they would be able to visit without a passport in June/July of this year.
Can anybody provide me a list or point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance!
I don't know of a list that provides exactly what you request, but this website http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/...ures_1229.html will give entry requirements by country. For instance, Jamaica is still doable without a passport. If they do obtain passports, this is also a good place to check if visas are also required. Since they have time, getting a passport is still the best option.
Feb 19, 2006 | 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Dan6681
Why don't they just get passports? You are talking about a trip they will be taking in 4 months. They have plenty of time to get the required documents to go almost anywhere.
Additionally, the paperwork that they would need is at home in Tennesee. Getting passports is not a realistic option for them.
Feb 19, 2006 | 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by gldwebs
Isnt there still a good chance anywhere they fly through might not have a way of keeping them airside requiring a passport? What about the return?
Feb 19, 2006 | 11:43 pm
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In the late 90ies - US military personnel was able to enter AUSTRIA for vacation in civil dresses without passport - only with their military ID and a so called "vacation certificate". Since this agreement is now waived, other countries still might have similar agreements with the US government.
Feb 20, 2006 | 1:54 am
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getting passports is the way to go, but i would think that r&r locations should be available thru the military....surely, going to germany should not be a problem and then going around europe....
the people i see on r&r at us airports are all in bdu's and are traveling w/orders [i think]...i always try to give them a high 5 and/or a drink coupon in the lounge... they may not have mufti, but could get some in europe...
have you contacted the state dept? and do you know what they would like to do?
places that come to mind are puerto rico, usvi, guam, pago pago...
good luck and a high 5 to them...
the people i see on r&r at us airports are all in bdu's and are traveling w/orders [i think]...i always try to give them a high 5 and/or a drink coupon in the lounge... they may not have mufti, but could get some in europe...
have you contacted the state dept? and do you know what they would like to do?
places that come to mind are puerto rico, usvi, guam, pago pago...
good luck and a high 5 to them...
