When does a plane arrive/depart
Jan 10, 2006, 6:33 am
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When does a plane arrive/depart
I have been wondering, which time for departure/arrival is used to determine whether a plane is on time or not compared with timetables. Is it the time where the plane leaves the gate and arrives at the gate or is it the time where is takes off and lands? Or in other words, is a plane supposed to leave the gate at the time mentioned in the timetable or is it supposed to take off at that time? Similar in the other end, is it supposed to meet the gate at the time mentioned in the timetable or is it supposed to land at that time?
Jan 10, 2006, 7:59 am
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Times shown in airline timetables and on their flight status systems (web site, automated phone info line, airport monitors etc.) are gate departure/arrival times. The published schedules always include more time than the actual wheels up-to-wheels down flying time to allow for taxiing, minor ground or airborne holds, changes in wind, ATC-imposed flight speed restrictions, etc.
On sites like http://flightaware.com you can get the actual takeoff/landing times which can vary significantly from the airline's published or actual arrival & departure schedules.
On sites like http://flightaware.com you can get the actual takeoff/landing times which can vary significantly from the airline's published or actual arrival & departure schedules.
Jan 10, 2006, 8:03 am
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The times in the airline timetables are gate times or boarding door close and open times. Otherwise connections would be all messed up. At a big airport it is sometimes a 20 min taxi if there is no line up for take off.
Look for a schedule where the airports are 30 min apart at RJ speed. The trip time will be about 1 hour. 15 min taxi on each end, plus the 30 actual flying time.
On time is a different item. I believe a flight is condsidered On Time if it arrives within 15 min. of its scheduled time. After that its Late.
Look for a schedule where the airports are 30 min apart at RJ speed. The trip time will be about 1 hour. 15 min taxi on each end, plus the 30 actual flying time.
On time is a different item. I believe a flight is condsidered On Time if it arrives within 15 min. of its scheduled time. After that its Late.
Jan 10, 2006, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by Flaflyer
On time is a different item. I believe a flight is condsidered On Time if it arrives within 15 min. of its scheduled time. After that its Late.
Jan 10, 2006, 9:36 am
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It always stirs up a bit of confusion among the infrequent travelers when the FA's announce the flight time as the gate-to-gate time, and then when the captain comes on a few minutes later, he announces the flight time as the wheels-up-to-wheels-down time. I love looking at all the joyful faces of people who hear the captain and think it means the plane will arrive significantly earlier than scheduled, while I realize we'll have a potentially lengthy taxi and runway queue on either end.
Jan 10, 2006, 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by UAL_Rulez
Times shown in airline timetables and on their flight status systems (web site, automated phone info line, airport monitors etc.) are gate departure/arrival times.
Jan 10, 2006, 10:54 am
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Originally Posted by clarence5ybr
I remember some years back it came out in the MSP press that NW had a policy that planes would be pushed back from the gate on time, even if ATC had their takeoff delayed and they knew they'd have to sit on the runway. This let them claim an 'on-time departure', even if the plane took off much later than scheduled.
Jan 10, 2006, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by clarence5ybr
I remember some years back it came out in the MSP press that NW had a policy that planes would be pushed back from the gate on time, even if ATC had their takeoff delayed and they knew they'd have to sit on the runway. This let them claim an 'on-time departure', even if the plane took off much later than scheduled.
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Jan 10, 2006, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by chrismo2
I have been wondering, which time for departure/arrival is used to determine whether a plane is on time or not compared with timetables. Is it the time where the plane leaves the gate and arrives at the gate or is it the time where is takes off and lands? Or in other words, is a plane supposed to leave the gate at the time mentioned in the timetable or is it supposed to take off at that time? Similar in the other end, is it supposed to meet the gate at the time mentioned in the timetable or is it supposed to land at that time?
Jan 10, 2006, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by the_traveler
I remember many years back, I flew from ORD and left the gate at the scheduled time. Because of severe storms on our path, all traffic was held - and we sat on the taxiway AT ORD for 3 hours! But, we had an "on-time departure" - even though we were still at ORD 3 hours later. (At least we saw 1 1/2 movies and had dinner {remember those in Y? } before takeoff!)
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Jan 10, 2006, 1:57 pm
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Gate to gate. I'm always a little perterbed when the FA announces an "early" arrival as soon as the wheels hit the ground. Its a sure sign that we'll be sitting in the plane another 40 minutes waiting for a gate to open up.