Pax asked to put seat up so large pax could eat, what would you have done?
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What is Appropriate 'Courtesy' for 'Larger' Passengers?
This brings to mind an extreme problem a friend experienced when we were students flying back from ATH to JFK on Olympic Airlines. The friend, who weighed 100 pounds soaking wet, was pleased to receive a window seat for the 10-hour flight. That is, until a 350lb lady sat in the neighboring two seats. As the FA was applying a seatbelt extender, my friend meekly asked if she could switch with the large, clearly immobile woman. The FA was outraged and asked how such a large woman would be able to use the restroom if she was seated by the window, and proceeded to strap her down. Ten hours later, my friend had not been able to get up for a bathroom run herself, as her neighbor could not move without significant assistance.
The question is how does an airline handle a situation where a larger passenger has purchased two seats specifically to handle the issue of girth and disability, but it still impacts other passengers? If this were governed by US law under the ADA, its a no-win situation for the airline or the two passengers in question.
-MJ
The question is how does an airline handle a situation where a larger passenger has purchased two seats specifically to handle the issue of girth and disability, but it still impacts other passengers? If this were governed by US law under the ADA, its a no-win situation for the airline or the two passengers in question.
-MJ
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Back on topic, the size of the passenger is not the issue at all. As several people have already pointed out, it is just common courtesy to not recline during meal service. Doing so makes it awkward for anyone to eat regardless of size.
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Originally Posted by umguy
Call it what you want. But since you don't have a location listed I will tell you like I tell everyone in the very diverse area I live in. If you were born here and don't like it. You are always free to leave. If you aren't from here, then you can always go home, or just not come visit. But you will find people are rude everywhere.
At the end of the day someone elses weight issues shouldn't be everyone elses problem. Common courtesy is holding the door for someone, not going out of your way to make somone else enjoys their meal. Just my opinion once again.
At the end of the day someone elses weight issues shouldn't be everyone elses problem. Common courtesy is holding the door for someone, not going out of your way to make somone else enjoys their meal. Just my opinion once again.
In terms of Y, eating is difficult enough. I'm nowhere near overweight, but I do have long arms. When someone is reclined in front of me and I'm trying to eat, my arms are nearly resting on my chest w/ my elbows into the seat back because the tray table is right in front of me.
But....I don't think you could have proven my point any better, thank you.
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Originally Posted by tazi
Back on topic, the size of the passenger is not the issue at all. As several people have already pointed out, it is just common courtesy to not recline during meal service. Doing so makes it awkward for anyone to eat regardless of size.
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I'd agree that it would be polite to accomodate the request so that the person in the seat behind me could have their meal.
However, (and please forgive my bluntness), but how much of a difference would that make in first class, as the trays are in the armrests and not on the back on the seat in front you? Unless I'm visualizing this incorrectly, it would appear to me that the person would have every bit as difficult a time eating with the forward seat reclined or upright.
Just a thought.
Cheers
However, (and please forgive my bluntness), but how much of a difference would that make in first class, as the trays are in the armrests and not on the back on the seat in front you? Unless I'm visualizing this incorrectly, it would appear to me that the person would have every bit as difficult a time eating with the forward seat reclined or upright.
Just a thought.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by swag
While I understand the urge to Fight the Power, especially if the FA is discourteous, your recline is punishing the person behind you, not the FA.
I can be courteous, but I don't respond courteously to rudeness
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Originally Posted by SJUflyer
I'd agree that it would be polite to accomodate the request so that the person in the seat behind me could have their meal.
However, (and please forgive my bluntness), but how much of a difference would that make in first class, as the trays are in the armrests and not on the back on the seat in front you? Unless I'm visualizing this incorrectly, it would appear to me that the person would have every bit as difficult a time eating with the forward seat reclined or upright.
Just a thought.
Cheers
However, (and please forgive my bluntness), but how much of a difference would that make in first class, as the trays are in the armrests and not on the back on the seat in front you? Unless I'm visualizing this incorrectly, it would appear to me that the person would have every bit as difficult a time eating with the forward seat reclined or upright.
Just a thought.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by WRCSolberg
Yeah, that's brilliant except you're not punishing AA, you're punishing the poor sap sitting behind you. You want more space, well then you should have paid the higher fares when MRTC was around.
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Originally Posted by WRCSolberg
For the record, and not that it matters, but I'm about as American as American gets. But I still disdain attitudes such as yours. Courtesy is not being a jackass because you don't care.
In terms of Y, eating is difficult enough. I'm nowhere near overweight, but I do have long arms. When someone is reclined in front of me and I'm trying to eat, my arms are nearly resting on my chest w/ my elbows into the seat back because the tray table is right in front of me.
But....I don't think you could have proven my point any better, thank you.
In terms of Y, eating is difficult enough. I'm nowhere near overweight, but I do have long arms. When someone is reclined in front of me and I'm trying to eat, my arms are nearly resting on my chest w/ my elbows into the seat back because the tray table is right in front of me.
But....I don't think you could have proven my point any better, thank you.
Wow since your so true blue I'm glad to see your a full fled native american. You know what? I've said all I've had to say in the nicest form I can do. So let me put it out there like for you. Stop execting handouts and being made into a vicitim on EVERY thread on here. This is 2 more times than I ever wanted to post on this. But just for my count how many of you actually live in MAJOR urban areas? Hmmmmm may explain alot.
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Originally Posted by umguy
I've said all I've had to say in the nicest form I can do.
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Originally Posted by umguy
Wow since your so true blue I'm glad to see your a full fled native american. You know what? I've said all I've had to say in the nicest form I can do. So let me put it out there like for you. Stop execting handouts and being made into a vicitim on EVERY thread on here. This is 2 more times than I ever wanted to post on this. But just for my count how many of you actually live in MAJOR urban areas? Hmmmmm may explain alot.
I also live in STL, while not LA or NYC, it's sure as hell not bumfock out in the middle of nowhere. Which brings me back to my initial statement, why would where I live have anything to do with the matter anyway? Another moot point.
Really, I'm glad you travel alot, because we really do need more elitist, arrogant, pompous Americans like yourself representing our country.
I'm done with this thread. If you want to converse on this subject in a more adult manner, then PM me. And now back to our regularly scheduled pissing and moaning....