might as well get all the forms for social benefits as well as this is one great place to live and get well paid for not working. They will even pay for all yoour medical bills, education and even provide you with a house and a holiday each year. Make sure you brig all your cousins as well

Hmmm... I read this section, and I am as confused as ever. To paraphrase, it states that the US recognizes dual nationality, but if an adult applies for it, they may lose US citizenship. Now in my case, I think I already am a British citizen by virtue of birth prior to 1983, so I would not be subject to the previously mentioned may. But I wonder, under what conditions would the US strip citizenship from someone applying to be a dual national? I have some speculation, but I'll reserve it for OMNI.

From the State Department website:
The Supreme Court has ruled that the State Department cannot infer an intention to give up US cistizenship simply by applying for and receiving foreign citizenship.

Here is in excellent FAQ on dual citizenship prepared by a private individual.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/

The guy has obviously done a fair amount of research and cites to many sources.

Mhttoanywhere, you are so incredibly incorrect that it pains me to write here. Three years??? Sorry, wrong, up until the 1960's there was a lot of ambiguity, however you are welcome to do some real research and find out for yourself for what you posted was incorrect.

the 18 yearold thing is an idiotic canard that I hear over and over again. The US has NEVER EVER EVER had any such provision, this sort of provision is more normal in certain central and northern European states such as Germany and Austria,and in the case of Germany is no longer 100% binding in all circumstances.

Every frigging time this subject comes up, all the armchair experts come out of the woodwork and pass off urban legend as fact. A US citizen can take up pretty much any second third, fourth or TENTH nationality that he/she wants as long as he/she does not intend to relinquish US citizenship, commit treason against the US, bea tax fraud, work in certain positions in foreign governments w/o State Dept prior approval, or serve in the armed forces of another state (although there are a million loopholes in that one regarding cumpulsory service, NATO allies, etc.). this has been the case for MANY decades.

I have posted the following everytime this subject comes up. Citizenship laws exist in vacuums, each countries laws have no relationship or bearing with any other laws. Many countries legally DO NOT allow you to renounce citizenship, therefore taking an oath to do so means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as the country you are "leaving" still considers you a citizen NO MATTER WHAT. Even if you do renounce, there is often little that keeps you from becoming a citizen of another country AFTER you attain the new citizenship. Even countries with the most restrictive of laws, such as Austri, have a few loopholes.

Well, I may be incorrect, I would never say never. However I do remember just before getting my citizenship (us) a celebrity was in the newspapers as being the first person to get US citizenship and be able to retain UK citizenship. So, I could be wrong, but by virtue of believing what I read!
Hey, we seem to have a lot of opinions here, so no need to be all over me!
Just say you don't agree.

So will I, a high tolerance to alcohol does have its uses.

You forgot the bit about divorcing once you gain citizenship and then having to go back to the �home� country for a replacement bride. Doesn�t matter if she can�t or isn�t willing to speak English as the printing of NHS forms in yet another foreign language will surely boost economic activity.

But this only when one applies for US citizenship when one would otherwise have no right to it. People who have right to dual citizenship are generally permitted to hold dual nationality (myself included). There has been a Supreme Court case or two in which the Court ruled in favor of people to remain dual citizens who had that right from birth (even if they were not passport holders their entire life) when US authorities attempted to strip them of the US citizenship.

Losing US nationality is pretty difficult and generally requires (from what I have read), one does some pretty bad things to upset the US government (i.e. serving in the armed forced of another country, although I believe Israel is an exception to that rule).

This is incorrect. I am 24 and a dual citizen holding US citizenship. I was never forced to choose. Neither were my two brothers. There are no laws in the US having this requirement. (And see my above post regarding Supreme Court cases upholding some peoples' rights to dual nationality.)

Germany does have this requirement. In fact, the new laws introduced not too long ago actually state that if one does not before the age of 20 inform the authorities of one's intention to keep or relinquish Germany nationality (in favor of another), they will assume one has choosen to relinquish Germany nationality.

The US Supreme Court has taken the view that citizenship is a basic Constitutional right, so it's almost impossible for a natural-born citizen to involuntarily lose citizenship. Even in the cases of acts against the United States, in some ways its easier to prosecute a citizen than a non-citizen.

On the other hand, I've heard people complain that the US makes it difficult to renounce citizenship, even if you really want to. Don't plan on this as a way of escaping your back taxes.

NATO visas are include in this rule same in the US children of A1/A2 and NATO visa cannot be US citizens by birth

Yes,however if the child were born in a non-military hospital in the UK prior to 1983, no one would be more the wiser.

I personally know a famous British actor who has been a dual US/UK citizen since the 60's, so what is posted above is absolute drivel, As I have worked/studied and been in and out of the UK for over 20 years, I would estimate that I know at LEAST 200 people with dual US/UK citizenship and possible THOUSANDS of people with dual US?Something and UK/Something and I would strongly urge anyone who is dealing with these issues to not depend on inaccurate tabloid articles, or the fuzzy recollections of people that cannot even cite them. I cannot say for something like this that I just disagree, as it is 100% absolutely WRONG and inaccurate or even dangerously wrong info should be repudiated as quickly as possible. hell, there are at leasta dozen UK/US citizens right HERE on FT, and all that I know of have been so for more than 3 years.

I got an Irish passport in the 80's, because when I was born in The States in the 60's, my father, who was born in the states in the teens was already (automatically) an Irish citizen because his father was born in Ireland in the 1880's. My grandfather died in 1919, and my father has not lived in Ireland since 1921. My father does not recall ever having an Irish (British?) passport or any other document showing his Irish nationality.

Was my father ever a British subject? Before 1 January 1949? He doesn't recall having a British passport, but he lived in Ireland for 15 months when he was six.
Could I get a British passport?

I mean, I already have an EU passport so why would I want another one, right? But, I have always been curious about this.

My brother is Australian (Melbourne as well) and living in the US, married to an American and has 3 kids (4 soon). He had been living as a permanent resident but last year finally decided to get US citizenship. He was able to retain his Australian citizenship without difficulty. All his children are American. We both have rights to EU citizenship/passports but have not pursued, nor needed, them.

I know plenty of Danish-Americans who hold both Danish and American passports.

"and I would strongly urge anyone who is dealing with these issues to not depend on inaccurate tabloid articles, or the fuzzy recollections of people that cannot even cite them. I cannot say for something like this that I just disagree, as it is 100% absolutely WRONG and inaccurate or even dangerously wrong info should be repudiated as quickly as possible. "



Hfly, you're right I should have researched and posted info rather than my personal comments/experience. Perhaps you could do us all a favor and post your source? That should help a lot of "inaccurate" people who also posted.