JFK <-> SYD Non-Stop - now that's a flight I need an upgrade on!
Feb 28, 2005, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by Analise
A nonstop from NYC? Somehow I think that would be greatly successful. Anyone know how successful the 18 hour nonstop EWR-SIN is doing?
May 19, 2005, 12:27 pm
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First of all, 20 hours on a plane is, obviously, an awfully long time. There would need to be ways to amuse and entertain oneself. Does Quantas have AVOD? That would be a big help, especially for people with kids (I shudder at the thought of young screaming kids running rampant on a 20-hour flight. 
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According to Great Circle Mapper, JFK-SYD is 8648 nautical miles. SYD-LHR, for comparison, is roughly 9180 nm. Everything I've read on the 772LR says that it could do LHR-SYD nonstop, but not SYD-LHR (at least not with a economically viable payload). While JFK is 500 nm miles closer to SYD, I would have to believe that there would still be payload issues on the westbound leg. Would adopting a cabin layout similar to the one used by SQ on its EWR/LAX-SIN routes be sufficient to overcome this problem? If so, this would likely require a higher fare for this route compared to the one-stop service; would enough people be willing to pay such a higher fare?
Great Circle also says ETOPS-207 would be needed. Would the 772LR be approved for this rating?
It would be cool to see this route come to be. Whether or not it is economically or technically viable is another matter.
)According to Great Circle Mapper, JFK-SYD is 8648 nautical miles. SYD-LHR, for comparison, is roughly 9180 nm. Everything I've read on the 772LR says that it could do LHR-SYD nonstop, but not SYD-LHR (at least not with a economically viable payload). While JFK is 500 nm miles closer to SYD, I would have to believe that there would still be payload issues on the westbound leg. Would adopting a cabin layout similar to the one used by SQ on its EWR/LAX-SIN routes be sufficient to overcome this problem? If so, this would likely require a higher fare for this route compared to the one-stop service; would enough people be willing to pay such a higher fare?
Great Circle also says ETOPS-207 would be needed. Would the 772LR be approved for this rating?
It would be cool to see this route come to be. Whether or not it is economically or technically viable is another matter.
May 19, 2005, 12:42 pm
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These super-longhauls are becoming increasingly common and selling well with at least some business travellers that I know.
Thai has one of these type flights also with Bangkok-NYC for $1500 one-way in business or BKK-NYC-BKK for $2500 in business. It won't stay that cheap for long.
Thai has one of these type flights also with Bangkok-NYC for $1500 one-way in business or BKK-NYC-BKK for $2500 in business. It won't stay that cheap for long.
May 19, 2005, 1:45 pm
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CO does pretty well using their 777s non-stop to HKG from EWR (8069 miles). Its up to 16 hours, so another 4 or so at that point is immaterial.
I fully expect CO to begin this route when they acquire the aircraft capable.
I fully expect CO to begin this route when they acquire the aircraft capable.
May 19, 2005, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
CO does pretty well using their 777s non-stop to HKG from EWR (8069 miles). Its up to 16 hours, so another 4 or so at that point is immaterial.
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May 19, 2005, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by JS
Not necessarily. I don't know about other people, but for me, the rate at which time seems to be moving slows down as the flight time increases. If I change planes, this "clock" of sorts re-sets quickly. That is, for me, the first hour is a snap, the second hour is easy, third is OK, ..., the sixth hour is annoying, the seventh hour I am starting to go crazy, and by the ninth hour I am convinced that I must have been comatose for a week and am stuck in a nightmare of a plane that will not ever land.
May 19, 2005, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by JS
Not necessarily. I don't know about other people, but for me, the rate at which time seems to be moving slows down as the flight time increases. If I change planes, this "clock" of sorts re-sets quickly. That is, for me, the first hour is a snap, the second hour is easy, third is OK, ..., the sixth hour is annoying, the seventh hour I am starting to go crazy, and by the ninth hour I am convinced that I must have been comatose for a week and am stuck in a nightmare of a plane that will not ever land.
May 19, 2005, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by McKaye
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May 19, 2005, 4:52 pm
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lets make a deal
if its a decent price, id take it. always dreamed of going to syd. cant seem to get a flight grb/ord-syd for anything under 1100.00 and not much less from nyc. if they had a decent deal 500-700. i could use miles to get to nyc from here. youd have to have a mantra though. happy thoughts!
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