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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 2:55 pm
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New airline based out of N. Virginia, proposes to start 767 service this spring.
"In addition to Britain, SkyLink Airways has named Aruba, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, the Czech Republic, the Dominican Republic, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Slovakia and Taiwan as potential destinations, according to the documents filed with the Transportation Department."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Jan26.html
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 6:22 pm
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International LCC

I think the key point here is that SkyLink proposes to be an international LCC (heard about this on headline news earlier)... here's to furthering the downward spiral of air travel...
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 9:24 pm
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That should be interesting!
So far, the only international LCC is IcelandAir and they seem to be doing very nicely.

Smart move with positioning in BWI and STN, paving the way for future partnerships with local LCCs!
Really, if they model themselves after JetBlue or Independence Air (comfortwise) , they might just find a niche in the market.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 10:06 pm
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So far, the only international LCC is IcelandAir and they seem to be doing very nicely.
1) Does this mean that Ryanair, Easyjet, Skyeurope, Air Berlin and Helvetic are restricted to domestic flights?

2) Icelandair is not really a LCC. LCCs tend to not offer Business class and hub connections.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by graraps
1) Does this mean that Ryanair, Easyjet, Skyeurope, Air Berlin and Helvetic are restricted to domestic flights?

2) Icelandair is not really a LCC. LCCs tend to not offer Business class and hub connections.
1) None of the Airlines mentioned serve the United States
2) Icelandair is the cheapest International Carrier from the states - their services are the same as many US LCC's.

It will be interesting to see the US majors, several who have been retooling to focus on the more profitable international routes, reaction to this.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 1:21 am
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Ahh. International only counts if the US is included.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 3:21 am
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Come on now, alan, let's get our geography right. All of Europe, the UK, and Ireland comprise one country: "Europe". All flights within this country are domestic.

Similarly, all of the US and Canada (except Hawaii) comprise one country: "USA". All flights within this country are domestic. Hawaii is an anomaly, neither domestic or international, a beloved reject (but is served by LCC ATA).

We're talking about an international LCC here . BWI is good planning. They should time connections with WN.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by cj001f
1) None of the Airlines mentioned serve the United States
So what? The definition of an "international LCC" is irrelevant to whether they fly to a particular country.

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2) Icelandair is the cheapest International Carrier from the states - their services are the same as many US LCC's.
As I said, I don't know of any LCCs that offer business class. Some US LCCs may offer connecting flights, but this just doesn't happen in Europe. To me, Icelandair is a flag carrier, no matter what you say!
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by cj001f
2) Icelandair is the cheapest International Carrier from the states - their services are the same as many US LCC's.

It will be interesting to see the US majors, several who have been retooling to focus on the more profitable international routes, reaction to this.
Icelandair's business class is not so cheap(and the Y ticket puts you in business class is very expensive). I have never found them to offer BWI-Europe for under US$2000, and Z tickets are frequently available on standard airlines, IAD-Europe, or bankrupt USAir for under $2000.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 7:37 am
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Do you really think that most LCC passengers care about business class prices???

Originally Posted by slawecki
Icelandair's business class is not so cheap(and the Y ticket puts you in business class is very expensive). I have never found them to offer BWI-Europe for under US$2000, and Z tickets are frequently available on standard airlines, IAD-Europe, or bankrupt USAir for under $2000.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 10:23 am
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As I said, I don't know of any LCCs that offer business class.
Airtran

http://airtran.com/info/bclass/index.jsp
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by graraps
So what? The definition of an "international LCC" is irrelevant to whether they fly to a particular country.
To appease the pedants: this would be the first TransAtlantic LCC

The aforementioned carriers fly within the EU, and on this side of the atlantic, JetBlue flies to the Dominican Republic and Bahamas making them all "international"
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by cj001f
To appease the pedants: this would be the first TransAtlantic LCC

The aforementioned carriers fly within the EU, and on this side of the atlantic, JetBlue flies to the Dominican Republic and Bahamas making them all "international"
It's hardly pedantry.

And there are plenty European LCCs that fly outside the EU (which isn't a 'nation'), intercontinentally too (Europe to North Africa and Turkey). There was even one doing London to South Africa until recently.

I'd probably say that the first transatlantic LCC was Freddie Laker's Skytrain, to be honest. You could also argue that Martinair, Condor and Corsair already provide transatlantic LCC services, too.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 9:36 pm
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For the record, the following LCCs offer both first/business class and hub connections:

Airtran (thanks, GWU ESIA STUDENT)
ATA (although I guess that's now out the window)
America West


The following LCCs offer hub connections, but not business class (IIRC):
Independence Air
Frontier
Jetblue
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 10:10 pm
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It's hardly pedantry.
You could also argue that Martinair, Condor and Corsair already provide transatlantic LCC services, too.
And LTU.
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