Should this guy fly?
Jan 12, 2005 | 9:56 am
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Should this guy fly?
Last night in LAS, saw a scary (but certainly comical) incident on the jetway. Dad was pushing his baby in a stroller and gives the stroller a big push down the jetway and lets go. The stroller bangs into the wall and flips over. Luckily the kid is okay, but dad is really drunk because he's laughing all about it and talking incoherently.
The F/As don't see the incident, so no reaction from them, but if they did, would this guy have been ejected? Seems almost like child abuse to me, because this was no accident.
The F/As don't see the incident, so no reaction from them, but if they did, would this guy have been ejected? Seems almost like child abuse to me, because this was no accident.
Jan 12, 2005 | 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by das
The F/As don't see the incident, so no reaction from them, but if they did, would this guy have been ejected? Seems almost like child abuse to me, because this was no accident.
If I let him on board, at least I can choose not to serve him if I think he's already drunk...increase the odds that he'll at least land sober. If it were obviously a problem, I might make some small talk with him and find out on the sly if he's driving at his destination.
Jan 12, 2005 | 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by das
Dad was pushing his baby in a stroller and gives the stroller a big push down the jetway and lets go. The stroller bangs into the wall and flips over. Luckily the kid is okay, but dad is really drunk because he's laughing all about it and talking incoherently.
What did others do as I'm sure you weren't the only one who witnessed this.
Jan 12, 2005 | 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by das
Should this guy fly?
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Jan 12, 2005 | 1:31 pm
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What a jerk.
FAA regulations prohibit transporting "intoxicated" passengers.
If this was Southwest, according to the TV show Airline not only would he not be allowed to fly, but they'd kick off everyone else in the jetway because they might have inhaled some of his alcohol fumes.
FAA regulations prohibit transporting "intoxicated" passengers.
If this was Southwest, according to the TV show Airline not only would he not be allowed to fly, but they'd kick off everyone else in the jetway because they might have inhaled some of his alcohol fumes.
Jan 12, 2005 | 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
What a jerk.
FAA regulations prohibit transporting "intoxicated" passengers.
If this was Southwest, according to the TV show Airline not only would he not be allowed to fly, but they'd kick off everyone else in the jetway because they might have inhaled some of his alcohol fumes.
FAA regulations prohibit transporting "intoxicated" passengers.
If this was Southwest, according to the TV show Airline not only would he not be allowed to fly, but they'd kick off everyone else in the jetway because they might have inhaled some of his alcohol fumes.
Jan 12, 2005 | 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by rejunivated
I guess if FAA don't want intoxicated pax, then should they prohibit carriers to sell and serve alcohol onboard (beers, wines, etc)?
Jan 12, 2005 | 6:48 pm
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I was going to ask how old the kid was, but I guess it doesn't matter being that he's in a stroller. Either way, this is so wrong.
Most witnesses to something like this wouldn't bother to say anything at all, expecting that someone else would say something. I guess I'm the same way. If myself and 20 other people saw this, I'd probably just go on my way. Then again, I wasn't there.
Most witnesses to something like this wouldn't bother to say anything at all, expecting that someone else would say something. I guess I'm the same way. If myself and 20 other people saw this, I'd probably just go on my way. Then again, I wasn't there.
Jan 12, 2005 | 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by bursa
If F/A saw him, could they report him to the cops for child abuse? Is this even abuse or negligence?
Reckless Endangerment to Children:
Mass. General Laws chapter 265, section 13L.
Since 1993 it has been a felony punishable by up to 5 years in state prison for any person with temporary or permanent responsibility for the care of a child under age 14 to wantonly or recklessly permit such child to suffer substantial bodily injury (Mass. General Laws chapter 265, section 13J). As of December 11, 2002, it is a crime punishable by up to 2 years in jail for any person (whether responsible for the care of the child or not), by his or her actions or failure to act when obliged to, to wantonly or recklessly create a substantial risk of serious bodily injury or sexual abuse to a child under the age of 14 (and in certain circumstances under the age of 18).
Mass. General Laws chapter 265, section 13L.
Since 1993 it has been a felony punishable by up to 5 years in state prison for any person with temporary or permanent responsibility for the care of a child under age 14 to wantonly or recklessly permit such child to suffer substantial bodily injury (Mass. General Laws chapter 265, section 13J). As of December 11, 2002, it is a crime punishable by up to 2 years in jail for any person (whether responsible for the care of the child or not), by his or her actions or failure to act when obliged to, to wantonly or recklessly create a substantial risk of serious bodily injury or sexual abuse to a child under the age of 14 (and in certain circumstances under the age of 18).
Last edited by SarahWest; Jan 12, 2005 at 7:17 pm
Jan 12, 2005 | 7:42 pm
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I would have reported this jerk to the flight crew and most certainly the Police. I would have missed my flight to file a complaint and demanded Social Services be called to remove the child from this monster. I would even come back as a witness during court proceedings. Parents like this drunken jerk does not deserve such a wonderful gift as a child. What a shame. God help this child.
