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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 3:13 pm
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I know someone currently traveling in Asia who was to spend a few days in Phuket (Jan 4-7). Given the circumstances, it would most likely not be the most relaxing part of their holiday. I was asked for suggestions for alternative destinations that are a relative quick hop out of BKK. The tickets were booked on a *A Asian Airpass (UA, SQ, OZ, TG), so I am sure *A would accommodate. The only other constraint is that the destination have decent accommodations/dining (was booked at JW Marriott in Phuket) and afford the opportunity to lounge around on the beach for a few days.

I had suggested Koh Samui / Phangan or Bali, any other suggestions?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 3:27 pm
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I know someone currently traveling in Asia who was to spend a few days in Phuket (Jan 4-7). Given the circumstances, it would most likely not be the most relaxing part of their holiday. I was asked for suggestions for alternative destinations that are a relative quick hop out of BKK. The tickets were booked on a *A Asian Airpass (UA, SQ, OZ, TG), so I am sure *A would accommodate. The only other constraint is that the destination have decent accommodations/dining (was booked at JW Marriott in Phuket) and afford the opportunity to lounge around on the beach for a few days.

I had suggested Koh Samui / Phangan or Bali, any other suggestions?

Samui only has flights on PG (Bangkok Airways) so that is most likely out if he doesn't want to go out of pocket. Bali is a good bet as there is a direct flight from BKK on TG (dep BKK @ 840a arr DPS @ 200p, dep DPS @ 500pm, arr BKK @ 840p). The problem with Bali is that it is a 4 hour flight and he'll most likely burn close to two days in transit.

Another option is Hua Hin although not nearly as pretty as the other places mentioned.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 3:37 pm
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I'd vote for Bali. The wife and I spent 2 wks. there this past may, staying at the Ritz Carlton on the coast at Jimbaran bay, and inland in Ubud at the Alilia. The Ritz was truly the most wonderful travel experience I have had yet to date. You won't regret it if you go there....

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by liquid

I had suggested Koh Samui / Phangan or Bali, any other suggestions?
Koh Samui is probably the best decision by far. If you had a longer trip Bali is nice too, but the previous poster had a point regarding the travel time. Another thing to think about is that Koh Samui may be feeling some serious effects as well. If not water related perhaps social issues. Refugees from the west.. etc etc.. Might be socially interesting. You might even be able to volunteer some time to help those in need. Some might think that would be really neat, but then again some might think that was a far cry from a beach so YMMV.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 3:47 pm
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The JW sustained very little damage and by Jan 4 all should be business as usual at the hotel. Having visited there several times, I cannot imagine a more relaxing spot.

Of course Patong will still be quite chaotic, but the hotel is really an all inclusive spot if you are looking for relaxation.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by annielovesua
The JW sustained very little damage and by Jan 4 all should be business as usual at the hotel. Having visited there several times, I cannot imagine a more relaxing spot.

Of course Patong will still be quite chaotic, but the hotel is really an all inclusive spot if you are looking for relaxation.
I can asure you that it will not be business as usual and I would strongly advise against staying in any of the places hardest hit. The only reason to do so would be to support the tourist industry -but it would make for an extremely depressing holiday.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 1:23 pm
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Thanks for the input and welcome to FT annielovesua (I wouldn't say I love them, but at least like them enough to give them a majority of my business these days). The JW reopened the pool and beach area today and the restaurant is scheduled to open on the 10th of the new year.

For now it looks to be Koh Samui. The flights will be out of pocket, but at least it avoids the 4 hours each way to/from Bali.

Thanks again FT
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If you want to get to Koh Samui on the *A Airpass, you can take a TG flight to Surat Thani. From there, you can take a taxi (about 250baht or a bus for 90 baht, one hour) to the ferry pier where you get onto a ferry to Koh Samui (about 60 baht, 2 hours)...too much effor for me, but backpackers do it just fine.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 12:52 am
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What about Pattaya?
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by rejunivated
What about Pattaya?
Thailand's trashiest beach resort.

I'm planning a visit to Phuket, Krabi or the Maldives in the next month or two. Feel free to label this as selfless charity to support a severely hurting tourist industry, or shamelessly taking advantage of what are sure to be massive discounts...
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 7:44 am
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How About Vietnam

I'm in Vietnam and they have some fantastic beaches just south of Ho Chi Minh City. Fhan Thiet, Pho Quoc and Nha Trang to name a few. Flights are pretty cheap and readily available here. Singapore, ANA and United all fly here. By the way, anyone who thinks business as normal will happen in Phuket has no sense of reality. This could be the worst natural disaster in the past two centuries...100,000 dead is the final guestimate in the news here.
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Originally Posted by Savage25
If you want to get to Koh Samui on the *A Airpass, you can take a TG flight to Surat Thani. From there, you can take a taxi (about 250baht or a bus for 90 baht, one hour) to the ferry pier where you get onto a ferry to Koh Samui (about 60 baht, 2 hours)...too much effor for me, but backpackers do it just fine.
Thanks Savio; haven't seen you since BKK in Jan. I agree with you, too much effort.

Originally Posted by rejunivated
What about Pattaya?
Pattaya does fit the beach description, but I had a not so great experience there and certainly wouldn't put it in the same category as Phuket or Koh Samui.

Originally Posted by kainoa1524
I'm in Vietnam and they have some fantastic beaches just south of Ho Chi Minh City.
I had thought about Vietnam, but with the one added step of a visa, even that is too much. At this point less is more.

Thanks all
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 3:38 pm
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Samui would be the most comparable alternative, though I think it's reached the point of no return on development. Bali is really great, though around Kuta and Besakih the hawkers are annoyingly thick.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 11:27 pm
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There are a buncha spots in Malaysia worth looking at as well.

If I wasn't so hung over on nyquill, i'd try to remember them all. There are some on the penninsula as well as on Borneo. I believe one is the Perinthians but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

I love Malaysia. I highly recommend it given it's like Thailand (geographically) but a little more calmer.

I hope the Pattaya recommendation is a joke. I wonder what the new Hard Rock Hotel is like there though.
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