WHY HAVE SUBGROUPS???????????????
#1
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WHY HAVE SUBGROUPS???????????????
Title shouting sez it all. Get a moderator to throw all the stuff out of here and into where it belongs.
edited to add london
Russian Visa
Bahamas
Paris
Wash DC
Headphones
LAX
Barzil
Yellowstone
UK car rental
Please note, I am not sweet willie, who has been very polite about the misposting.
[This message has been edited by slawecki (edited 05-05-2003).]
edited to add london
Russian Visa
Bahamas
Paris
Wash DC
Headphones
LAX
Barzil
Yellowstone
UK car rental
Please note, I am not sweet willie, who has been very polite about the misposting.
[This message has been edited by slawecki (edited 05-05-2003).]
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"If it's a travel topic worth talking about, it's likely in this forum. (non-frequent flyer program travel)"
slawecki - I am normally pretty mellow, but in this case...get off the high horse! Some folks actually have jobs, we work, we don't have time to read every darn thread on FT. When I want to post a general travel question, I am GOING to post it in Travelbuzz because I only have time to read a few forums and this is one I read. And per the quote above, this is an approprate place to post such a question. I know that I am not alone and others advice would be missed because they don't read the random forums either. So get over it. It is called Travelbuzz for a reason. Note the AC forum where it is OK to post about anything Canadian or the US forum where anything about CLT or PIT is welcome. I mean the moderators have to have a clue in order to balance your idea of where something should be posted vs where the post is actually going to get a response. Otherwise why post it at all? FT would be worthless without responses from those who know and those who care and most likeley they are not the folks who have time to surf every darn thread on FT and worry "did I psot that in the right place?". IMHO.
slawecki - I am normally pretty mellow, but in this case...get off the high horse! Some folks actually have jobs, we work, we don't have time to read every darn thread on FT. When I want to post a general travel question, I am GOING to post it in Travelbuzz because I only have time to read a few forums and this is one I read. And per the quote above, this is an approprate place to post such a question. I know that I am not alone and others advice would be missed because they don't read the random forums either. So get over it. It is called Travelbuzz for a reason. Note the AC forum where it is OK to post about anything Canadian or the US forum where anything about CLT or PIT is welcome. I mean the moderators have to have a clue in order to balance your idea of where something should be posted vs where the post is actually going to get a response. Otherwise why post it at all? FT would be worthless without responses from those who know and those who care and most likeley they are not the folks who have time to surf every darn thread on FT and worry "did I psot that in the right place?". IMHO.
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Sorry, auh20, but I'm with slawecki (and, for that matter SweetWillie) on this one.
If you're going to have the subgroups, then they should be used properly. Otherwise stuff gets doubled up. My understanding of a "travel topic" would be something like SARS, say - a broad topic affecting travel but not to do with points. How do I get from ORD to downtown Chicago is not a "travel topic" - it's a specific question about a location.
I'm glad you're so busy with work that you don't have time to read every topic on FT, auh20, but just imagine how much time you could save if instead of posting and waiting for replies you could search just one forum and find your answer instantly!
But surely you can remember to check for the answers to your important questions whichever forum you post them in?
But that's exactly the argument people used a year or so ago before it all got tidied up about MilesBuzz. And after a couple of weeks, everyone who was so busy they only ever looked at MilesBuzz started looking at TravelBuzz too. I think you can see where this is going...
If you're going to have the subgroups, then they should be used properly. Otherwise stuff gets doubled up. My understanding of a "travel topic" would be something like SARS, say - a broad topic affecting travel but not to do with points. How do I get from ORD to downtown Chicago is not a "travel topic" - it's a specific question about a location.
I'm glad you're so busy with work that you don't have time to read every topic on FT, auh20, but just imagine how much time you could save if instead of posting and waiting for replies you could search just one forum and find your answer instantly!
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When I want to post a general travel question, I am GOING to post it in Travelbuzz because I only have time to read a few forums and this is one I read.</font>
When I want to post a general travel question, I am GOING to post it in Travelbuzz because I only have time to read a few forums and this is one I read.</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">I know that I am not alone and others advice would be missed because they don't read the random forums either.</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Wingnut:
I think you can see where this is going...</font>
I think you can see where this is going...</font>
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Wingnut (and slawecki):
TravelBuzz was designed precisely for non-miles travel-related topics. Getting to downtown from ORD is no less specific than SARS. Besides, a helluva lot more FTers are likely to find the ORD-downtown info far, far more useful not to mention relevant than SARS, which they will likely never have to deal with.
Having been around here for a long time and looking at TravelBuzz nearly everyday, I rarely see mispostings. It's fine the way it is.
If you really have a grave disagreement about the way this board is being run, then please post to the TalkBoard forum or Only Randy Peterson to have your concerns addressed more directly. No offense, but merely kvetching here will only declare open season for more ill-will in subsequent posts.
[This message has been edited by essxjay (edited 05-06-2003).]
TravelBuzz was designed precisely for non-miles travel-related topics. Getting to downtown from ORD is no less specific than SARS. Besides, a helluva lot more FTers are likely to find the ORD-downtown info far, far more useful not to mention relevant than SARS, which they will likely never have to deal with.
Having been around here for a long time and looking at TravelBuzz nearly everyday, I rarely see mispostings. It's fine the way it is.
If you really have a grave disagreement about the way this board is being run, then please post to the TalkBoard forum or Only Randy Peterson to have your concerns addressed more directly. No offense, but merely kvetching here will only declare open season for more ill-will in subsequent posts.
[This message has been edited by essxjay (edited 05-06-2003).]
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by auh2o:
Some folks actually have jobs, we work, we don't have time to read every darn thread on FT. When I want to post a general travel question, I am GOING to post it in Travelbuzz because I only have time to read a few forums and this is one I read.</font>
Some folks actually have jobs, we work, we don't have time to read every darn thread on FT. When I want to post a general travel question, I am GOING to post it in Travelbuzz because I only have time to read a few forums and this is one I read.</font>
Just because your time is limited doesn't justify posting wherever is convenient for you. (imho)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by auh2o:
No, I can't. Period. I stand by my comments. </font>
No, I can't. Period. I stand by my comments. </font>
Who needs those frikkin moderators anyway! We'll post where we want!
#8


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As far as I am concerned, the Travelbuzz section works pretty well. Any obviously misplaced posts are moved, but the majority stay, even if they could perhaps be placed elsewhere. This is the perfect scenario for me, as I do not wish to have to look through 100 sections to find things that may be relevant or interesting to me 
If all the perfectly "on-topic" posts were being moved out of the first page in hours due to the mass of poorly placed posts then I would see a cause for concern. Since that isn't happening I'm not sure anyone needs to get too upset. Things could be a lot worse!

If all the perfectly "on-topic" posts were being moved out of the first page in hours due to the mass of poorly placed posts then I would see a cause for concern. Since that isn't happening I'm not sure anyone needs to get too upset. Things could be a lot worse!
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Threads posted in TravelBuzz are likely to garner answers from more people, but also to have a shorter lifespan: -> good for a quick answer to a simple question
Threads posted in a specific forum usually get more detailed answers, many from experienced FT'ers on weekends, and are more often bumped up at a later date: -> good for trip-planning and the FT 'databank'
The standard of moderation in TravelBuzz is certainly not the same as in MileBuzz, and does not need to be. However, gently weaning some of the newer posters to the specific forums would not hurt either.
The problem is that some of the smaller forums have not reached critical mass, and will not unless jump-started (by an influx of redirected posts).
Threads posted in a specific forum usually get more detailed answers, many from experienced FT'ers on weekends, and are more often bumped up at a later date: -> good for trip-planning and the FT 'databank'
The standard of moderation in TravelBuzz is certainly not the same as in MileBuzz, and does not need to be. However, gently weaning some of the newer posters to the specific forums would not hurt either.
The problem is that some of the smaller forums have not reached critical mass, and will not unless jump-started (by an influx of redirected posts).
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Having subgroups is useful, but having such a large number of subgroups is not useful. There are so many subgroups here that most people don't look at all of them. As a result, posting a question somewhere other than Travelbuzz gets a very limited audience.
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OK, should the following thread: ExCeL Center London - Hotel options be in TravelBuzz or London? And if the answer is TravelBuzz, then why is there a London forum? (Incidentally, now I've seen this thread I've replied to it - it might be worth posting again in the London forum as replies there are quick and knowledgeable).
If all these things should be in TravelBuzz, then that's absolutely fine but as Kokonutz says, all the other fora should be deleted!
If all these things should be in TravelBuzz, then that's absolutely fine but as Kokonutz says, all the other fora should be deleted!
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I think there is a very wide range of acceptable TravelBuzz! topics. Non-miles travel questions are welcome here.
The value of TravelBuzz! is that lots of people read and respond here.
TravelBuzz! is valuable because of the "network effect." That means that the more people read a particular forum, the higher the value of that forum.
If I moved every post that had a more specific forum, there would be very few threads on TravelBuzz!, people wouldn't see those threads at all, and the value to FlyerTalkers would be severely diminished.
Now, if TravelBuzz! gets too big and too busy, then it makes sense to start having people post to the other groups, e.g. London, airports, etc.
But until then, it is most useful to post where people read and respond -- which is here.
This is my personal philosophy and what I will follow unless Randy tells me otherwise.
The value of TravelBuzz! is that lots of people read and respond here.
TravelBuzz! is valuable because of the "network effect." That means that the more people read a particular forum, the higher the value of that forum.
If I moved every post that had a more specific forum, there would be very few threads on TravelBuzz!, people wouldn't see those threads at all, and the value to FlyerTalkers would be severely diminished.
Now, if TravelBuzz! gets too big and too busy, then it makes sense to start having people post to the other groups, e.g. London, airports, etc.
But until then, it is most useful to post where people read and respond -- which is here.
This is my personal philosophy and what I will follow unless Randy tells me otherwise.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Marysunshine:
I must be getting very old. I am having a bit of trouble differentiating between Travelbuzz and Omni lately. </font>
I must be getting very old. I am having a bit of trouble differentiating between Travelbuzz and Omni lately. </font>
Omni topic: why people fart at home or at work.
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