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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 9:46 pm
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Laptops- worth the hassle?

Given how cheap internet cafes are, and the high cost of accessing an ISP from a European hotel, I'm wondering if laptops are worth bringing. They're heavy, take up a ton of room in your carry-on, and will leave you TSOL if they're lost or stolen. I'm thinking a floppy disk with key .doc and .xls files is the way to go (if TSA x-rays don't fry it)

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:03 pm
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Problem with that for me is that I most often need internet when there is no Internet Cafe or public internet available anywhere (or where I can get to in time).

With my laptop with me, I can plug into a hotel or pay phone, use my Cell Phone, or even Wi-Fi if available. And all my work and files are on the laptop ready to go.

Fortunately, my laptop's not that much of a pain to carry. And I can watch my own selection of movies on the plane with it as well.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:13 pm
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I wish my entire work could be stored securely upon a few key .doc and .xls files!

Most people work better in quiet hotel rooms than in a noisy internet cafe somewhere. Productivity is much better with a laptop.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:19 pm
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I have a medium sized bag (and small Dell) and that's my office. I can work anywhere, anytime. The only thing that gets me is having to take it out of the bag at the x-ray machine.

Also I can sit in a Hotel room, with a drink, (half) naked, and work or surf. Not sure you can do that in an Internet Cafe.

This thing is like the American Express Card, never leave home without it.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:09 pm
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:34 pm
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I must be missing something blatantly obvious.

If I were to use an Internet cafe instead of bringing my laptop with me on a business trip, why the hell would I bother? I can stay at home and do the same thing in more comfort, less cost and more productivity.

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:39 am
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For work I find a laptop indispensable as I need access to a large number of files when I travel. I can load up my laptop with them all (this is now automatic everything I save on my netwrok drive in the office gets copied accross to my laptop and vica versa).

Personel travel then the laptop stays at home, if I want to access e-mail then I go to an internet cafe.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 11:55 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by advex:
Given how cheap internet cafes are, and the high cost of accessing an ISP from a European hotel, I'm wondering if laptops are worth bringing. They're heavy, take up a ton of room in your carry-on, and will leave you TSOL if they're lost or stolen. I'm thinking a floppy disk with key .doc and .xls files is the way to go (if TSA x-rays don't fry it)
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It depends on what you need the laptop for! I'm led to believe you live on the Continent - I spent 10 days traveling through Europe with my wife last winter, where I simply needed occasional daily access to a few Microsoft programs and company / personal e-mails - and I had no problems at all getting around without a laptop.

Don't try this if you live in the US, however; there simply isn't the required saturation of internet cafes and the like to survive.

This is starting to drift towards Travel Technology, but if you're really worried about bulk and weight concerns ...

Get a Fujitsu P-series. They've got all the bells and whistles you need on a typical laptop, but start at as little as 1.0 kilos in weight.

Oh, and they perform splendid double duty as a portable DVD player, thanks to their widescreen aspect ratio.

Best of all, you can carry it ... computer, cables, and all ... in a case the approximate size of a laboratory journal.

I'll be trading up to a P-5000 from my current S-series as soon as the budget allows.

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 11:59 am
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I take a lot of digital photos. First, the laptop good for downloading them as I go.

Second, I feel very productive (and make the flight pass faster) to review/edit the photos on the laptop on the way home. Then, I can come home and upload them to the internet ASAP.

Which means I'm done with it before I arrive home. Otherwise, it can take up a lot of productive time and put me farther behind.

Plus, my husband uses it for work sometimes.

When we were in Curacao our studio apartment had neither TV nor radio. So our laptop played the couple of DVDs we brought and the CDs for some music.

If you just send a few emails home and check thing on the internet, then it's great if you can just find a local internet cafe.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:35 pm
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Have you considered getting a PocketPC and carrying that with you instead of a laptop?

My laptop goes (well, laptops-- yes, I usually am stupid enough to take 2) with me on all business trips, but I generally find that it (they) stays home on personal trips. For those, I just take my PocketPC. With that, I can:

- Edit Word files (using TextMaker Pro)
- Edit Excel files
- Connect to the Internet using my built-in WiFi or bluetooth w/ my cell phone (check email, surf the web, etc.)
- Play games (I highly recommend SimCity 2000 for the PocketPC)

If need be, I can jump onto one of my servers with the built-in Terminal Services Client application and have full control over a PC.

There are plenty of other things that you can do with it that I haven't mentioned here either-- like watch movies, play MP3s, etc. This has truly been a lifesaver on occasion, and something that I don't leave home without no matter what.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:51 pm
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It depends on what you'd use it for. If you just want to access e-mail and the occasional Web site, don't bring it. For me, my laptop is an essential tool in a bazillion ways. Knowing I can read e-mail at an I-cafe after I touch down doesn't help me work on a report in flight.

The real question for me is whether having a separate desktop machine is worth the hassle.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:57 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by clrankin:
Have you considered getting a PocketPC and carrying that with you instead of a laptop?

For those, I just take my PocketPC. With that, I can:

- Edit Word files (using TextMaker Pro)
- Edit Excel files
- Connect to the Internet using my built-in WiFi or bluetooth w/ my cell phone (check email, surf the web, etc.)
- Play games (I highly recommend SimCity 2000 for the PocketPC)

If need be, I can jump onto one of my servers with the built-in Terminal Services Client application and have full control over a PC.

There are plenty of other things that you can do with it that I haven't mentioned here either-- like watch movies, play MP3s, etc. This has truly been a lifesaver on occasion, and something that I don't leave home without no matter what.
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I too am now carrying a PDA when possible, though that 12-inch Powerbook from Apple sure looks tempting.

With my Palm, I have a keayboard for writing, and I carry a USB jump-drive with which I can transefer files to and from the SD card (stick the jump-drive into any web-connected computer) which my Palm reads.

Documants to Go is a key piece of PDA software that I use.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 3:06 pm
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When I had major surgery last year I wasn't allowed to carry more than 5lbs total for a while & laptop plus paperwork etc was over that, so for some short trips I just took a disc of necessary doc & xls files & used the hotel biz center or local i-cafe. It wasn't expensive & I didn't have to lug.

That was actually kind of nice, so now when I'm on short biz trips I don't bother & just use the hotel ctr or i.c. If I'm on a trip of a longer duration or know there's stuff I absolutely need to access, then I'll schlep it.

And on personal trips - never. I used to check even when on the road for personal trips until I went on a river cruise in Russia last year. The freedom of no email access was almost as great as seeing Russia - and I discovered the biz world kept on going & did not fall apart. I'm starting to get into the UK/Euro mindframe - a holiday is a holiday.

I used to do work on flights but no longer. That's my time when no one can get to me so unless I'm really on deadline, I just read non-biz magazines, novels & watch movies.

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 6:11 pm
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Some very good points have been made here. The recommendation on the Fujitsu sounds especially appealing. As for bringing along a laptop to be able to download .jpegs from my digital camera, get a bigger SD card!
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 9:21 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SkiAdcock:

And on personal trips - never. I used to check even when on the road for personal trips until I went on a river cruise in Russia last year.
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Can you please drive down to Orange County and slap me around? In May I went on vacation to Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. I "happened" to look at the dial up directory and had a number in BKK and Phomn Penh. So of course I had to dial in and download/upload my inbox, not to mention doing it again for the trip back. But I have a Digital Camera so that was a good reason to bring my laptop.
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