Are you sure there was more legroom? Seats for the disabled are merely the ones more accessible to a wheelchair designed for narrow aircraft aisles.

Exit rows have more legroom, but disabled passengers are not allowed to sit there.

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Thank's for asking! Usually I do. Sometimes there are more disabled passengers than seats. I always ask for one of these seats, however they are not always available. Unfortunately for the whiners, even in those seats it would be me who got the extra room, not the self absorbed business clone seated behind me. Clearly, it is another FTer who should request the disabled seat, since he is obviously crippled by an hyperextended opinion of himself.

If the person behind me is too tall for me to recline, I would request that one of us be reseated. However, unless you are 7'10", you should be able to fit between te seats as well as an overweight person fits between the armrests. Uncomfortable, but possible. Just like when I have to fly intercontinental coach and the plane is full. It's more painfull when I don't get upgraded or snag a seat with more room, but oh well. I don't feel like I have to kick anyone to make myself feel better. I just recline, and try to relax as much as possible until it is over.

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By the "harassing the disabled man" comment, may I infer that you would not hesitate to "ham it up" if someone prevented you from reclining? I'm not levelling a personal attack here; just personal curiousity... I'd really like to know what extent you would go to just to get your own way and make the other guy look like a jerk.

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On a good day, I would request to be reseated. On a bad day, I could pummel you with my crutches. On the worst day, I might run over you with my wheelchair. In this case I'm sure I wouldn't need to move an inch for 'the other guy' to look like a jerk.

7' 10"? Maybe in UA E+, but not in normal coach. One need not be unusally tall to need almost all the legroom available on DL, CO, NW and US.

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I hope this is somekind of joke. I would think that getting work done on a plane is a very responsible and productive use of one's time. Certainly more so than the so-called "in-flight entertainment". I would be ashamed of myself if I prevented someone from working on their laptop just so I could recline my seat.

I think that if someone complained about me using the seat recline exactally as it was designed to work, I would try to find a compromise by reclining less but still reclining. If they went on complaining about their selfish, "right to space" and started bothering me by hitting my seat and generally making my flying experience even more unpleasant I would wait until we got off the plane and punch the person in the nose http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

Sorry, My disability is not a joke. As for working on the plane, if you have some EXTRA work to do, and there is space, by all means go for it. If you NEED to finish your work on the plane, you are being irresponsible. Based simply on the posts to this forum it is easy to see that no reasonable person should expect to get ANYTHING productive done in the hectic environment of a commercial flight. I have no problem accommodating myself in a coach aisle seat. If YOU have a problem, then YOU should ask to be reseated. It's not hard. I've been reseated plenty of times. It should be no problem for an able bodied business traveler like most here. If the airline is not able to reseat you, you will receive my apology, but not my seat space. I will not suffer for your convenience.

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I think you know good and well that I was referring to the joke as being your comment about irresponsibilty in getting work done on a plane - and not your disability. I still stand by my belief that working on a plane can be very productive - all it takes is a little focus and, hopefully, not the back of somebody else's head in your face.

Again, GO FOR IT! More power to you. Just don't expect me to give up my seat recline to accommodate it. If YOU need more room in the seat, YOU need to be reseated.

My, my, we're beginning to get personal, aren't we? Did I hit a sore spot somewhere, or are you just in a foul mood today?

If you 'need' to recline on a plane, then perhaps you should buy a business or first class seat where you've got the room to do so without inconveniencing the other passengers. If you 'need' that extra space, then you 'need' to charter your own plane. It works both ways, my friend...

I would assume that a good FA would find a way to accommodate us both, as we are both paying customers who have a right to do as we please on the aircraft. People who recline-- for whatever reason-- need to be sensitive of the rights to space of the person sitting behind them. And if they aren't sensitive, then someone needs to force them to be less concerned about themselves and more concerned about others.

That certainly doesn't sound like what you've been advocating the whole time. From your other posts, my interpretation of your position has become "I'll do what I want, irregardless of how it inconveniences others. I'm disabled, and that trumps any other needs." If I've misinterpreted this, I'm sorry; but that's exactly how you came across to me.

Well, now, so much for the whole personal attack issue... Whoever said I was irresponsible? I'm just trying to get a few extra hours of work in on the plane, rather than sitting there and sleeping or watching a movie. And yes, people who inconvenience me are jerks to a certain degree, as far as I'm concerned. Your space ends where mine begins; your rights end where mine begin. It appears that the whole reclining seat issue would be one of those murky gray areas that would lead to one of us being reseated via a request to an FA...

So much for no personal attacks... But then again, sometimes that's the only way an argument can be won, right?

Remeber the assault charge you would level against me from page 1 of this thread? That wouldn't stick; doing any of these would. And, yes, I'd insist that charges be pressed to the maximum extent possible. And that would be just the start of it; I would file a civil suit too, and likely win.

The bottom line is still simply this: we both have a right to be comfortable. My rights do not trump yours, and your rights certainly do not trump mine.

I sure wish my company thought this way. Unfortunately, travel time is on the clock. As such, we are paid to work, and not to goof off enjoying what little bit of entertainment can be had flying x-con in Y. Since i am normally hopping a flight immediately following a meeting, and on my way to the next, many times that fold-down tray table is my office desk.

Still ... two people willing to make things work, can reach a mutually agreeable compormise in most cases. The emphasis here is that both parties must be willing to make a small self sacrifice and swallow a little pride. Hey, you may have to move up two seats, not just one, for this to workout. Isn't this usually a plus?

May I recommend that the person wishing to recline simply trade seats with the person
GMF behind them that wishes not to be reclined upon? Is this too difficult for both parties to agree upon?

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At least you're willing to compromise... And that would be fine with me. You can recline as much as you want, as long as there is a way for me to work on my laptop comfortably, or at least not have your head sitting next to my face.

I don't think there's anything selfish about claiming a right to space. After all, you're doing the same thing by reclining, claiming that you have the "right" to do so. It sounds as though you would be just as selfish as I in that situation. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/wink.gif

And I hope you were joking about the punching the person in the face part... There are plenty of people (myself included) that would press charges to the maximum extent possible over something like that. I don't think that anybody wants to be arrested for doing something at an airport these days...

Work on brother! If you can work in Y you are a better employee than most. Although I hope you don't spend ALL of your time working. I hope you take some time to talk to the people seated arround you. I meet a lot of interesting people & contacts (& afew jerks) that way. And good luck in finding a more reasonable employer (not bloody likely these days, that's why I started my own business.). And you will clearly have no problem finding space to get your work done since you are willing to compromise. That's what civilization is all about. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif
I am perfectly willing to compromise as I have previously stated. There are 1000's of options available to a reasonable person. I am open to almost all of them. My objection started when 'someone' threatened to kick me in the back.