TSA baggage seal?
#17
Join Date: Jan 2003
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tazi:
Typical TSA idiocy! Even if they had placed this 'tamper-evident' seal on your bag, what good is it??? How about tamper-proof??? Does it even tell you what to do in case the 'tamper-evident' seal is missing or has been tampered with?
I have heard that they would put a note inside your luggage if it had been searched and that they were using plastic ties to re-secure bags. I guess it counts for something but certainly it is not enough to deter a thief. What about the bags that aren't searched though? They just get to go on ahead unlocked for anyone to steal from.
They have had a year to come up with a process for screening the bags and there is no reason they could not have done more than this to make sure your belongings are not so susceptible to theft. Instead they wait until the last minute and issue a statement that you have to leave your luggage unlocked.
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Typical TSA idiocy! Even if they had placed this 'tamper-evident' seal on your bag, what good is it??? How about tamper-proof??? Does it even tell you what to do in case the 'tamper-evident' seal is missing or has been tampered with?
I have heard that they would put a note inside your luggage if it had been searched and that they were using plastic ties to re-secure bags. I guess it counts for something but certainly it is not enough to deter a thief. What about the bags that aren't searched though? They just get to go on ahead unlocked for anyone to steal from.
They have had a year to come up with a process for screening the bags and there is no reason they could not have done more than this to make sure your belongings are not so susceptible to theft. Instead they wait until the last minute and issue a statement that you have to leave your luggage unlocked.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Peacekeeper:
You can lock your bags after they have been searched.We cannot guarantee bagggage handlers won't get in your bag cause thats not our job!!!Our job is the flying public's safety!!!</font>
You can lock your bags after they have been searched.We cannot guarantee bagggage handlers won't get in your bag cause thats not our job!!!Our job is the flying public's safety!!!</font>
"Moron" Minetta had 15 Months to make this happen and he DROPPED the ball again. What an idiot.
#20
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Ties?
Tamper-Evident Seal?
I now have 6 of the TSA "We rifled through your bags" notices and I have yet to see a tie or "tamper-evident" seal.
I have however had a luggage strap stolen and another time the TSA Screener was too lazy to put the strap back on my bag and just threw it inside (A luggage strap is DESIGNED to go around the bag to keep it closed you MORONS)
Tamper-Evident Seal?
I now have 6 of the TSA "We rifled through your bags" notices and I have yet to see a tie or "tamper-evident" seal.
I have however had a luggage strap stolen and another time the TSA Screener was too lazy to put the strap back on my bag and just threw it inside (A luggage strap is DESIGNED to go around the bag to keep it closed you MORONS)
#21
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Columbia SC
Posts: 11
These tamper evident seals are not at the airports yet that is why they are not on your bag yet. Soon there will be red and blue tamper evident locks. At CAE we do not have the CTX machines yet, so I do not know exactly how that system works. I will give you some advice on the airports that are using the the EDT machines for screening Checked bags. You can wait and put your locks back on your bags. Or you can leave it unlocked, and we will lock it when we are done. If there is a situation were there is a lock on a bag that we need to get into, you will be paged to remove it. If you are not there in timely manner we will be forced to cut the lock. I feel badly about this but all bags have to be screened. Hope that this helps. I look forward to seeing you at CAE.
#22


Join Date: Sep 2002
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by TSACAE:
These tamper evident seals are not at the airports yet that is why they are not on your bag yet. Soon there will be red and blue tamper evident locks. At CAE we do not have the CTX machines yet, so I do not know exactly how that system works. I will give you some advice on the airports that are using the the EDT machines for screening Checked bags. You can wait and put your locks back on your bags. Or you can leave it unlocked, and we will lock it when we are done. If there is a situation were there is a lock on a bag that we need to get into, you will be paged to remove it. If you are not there in timely manner we will be forced to cut the lock. I feel badly about this but all bags have to be screened. Hope that this helps. I look forward to seeing you at CAE.</font>
These tamper evident seals are not at the airports yet that is why they are not on your bag yet. Soon there will be red and blue tamper evident locks. At CAE we do not have the CTX machines yet, so I do not know exactly how that system works. I will give you some advice on the airports that are using the the EDT machines for screening Checked bags. You can wait and put your locks back on your bags. Or you can leave it unlocked, and we will lock it when we are done. If there is a situation were there is a lock on a bag that we need to get into, you will be paged to remove it. If you are not there in timely manner we will be forced to cut the lock. I feel badly about this but all bags have to be screened. Hope that this helps. I look forward to seeing you at CAE.</font>
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#23
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Columbia SC
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I know that it seems simple to have all of the stuff in place but we just don't have all of the suplies yet. There are 429 airports, thats alot of plastic locks. For the meantime they are supposed to be useing cable ties. We are at CAE. You will see lots of changes in baggege, just like you saw at the CP. Just give it time, improvments will be made.
#24


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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by TSACAE:
I know that it seems simple to have all of the stuff in place but we just don't have all of the suplies yet. There are 429 airports, thats alot of plastic locks. For the meantime they are supposed to be useing cable ties. We are at CAE. You will see lots of changes in baggege, just like you saw at the CP. Just give it time, improvments will be made.</font>
I know that it seems simple to have all of the stuff in place but we just don't have all of the suplies yet. There are 429 airports, thats alot of plastic locks. For the meantime they are supposed to be useing cable ties. We are at CAE. You will see lots of changes in baggege, just like you saw at the CP. Just give it time, improvments will be made.</font>
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#25
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Folks, blaming the government for logistical failures is a waste of time. There are only two things to blame them for.
1. No plan for reimbursement for lost or damaged items.
2. Giving in to the terrorists and the terrorized (mostly the terrorized) and drastically reducing our liberties.
1. No plan for reimbursement for lost or damaged items.
2. Giving in to the terrorists and the terrorized (mostly the terrorized) and drastically reducing our liberties.
#26
Join Date: Oct 2002
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Peacekeeper:
We cannot guarantee bagggage handlers won't get in your bag cause thats not our job!!!Our job is the flying public's safety!!!</font>
We cannot guarantee bagggage handlers won't get in your bag cause thats not our job!!!Our job is the flying public's safety!!!</font>
I, for one, would be pleased to see some of the money being spent on "random security" for 80-year-old grandmas their preschool grandchildren, go toward better monitoring and prevention of theft from checked baggage. Now that would be real security in response to a real threat - something we could all be thankful for!

