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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 2:37 pm
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Does It Matter To You?

I work at a resort hotel, and have been working with a few others to find ways to help the environment. I recently found out that many hotels throw out all the toilet paper in the room (after a guest checks out)that no longer has the original wrapping around it. In other words, every new guest gets a fresh roll, regardless if the old roll is still full or not.

I haven't really formed an opinion on this yet, so I wanted to get YOUR feedback. As a guest, would you care if the TP roll wasn't brand new?
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 2:45 pm
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However politically incorrect this may sound, yes it matters to me. I'd like a fresh TP roll please.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 3:06 pm
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I'm fine with a half-used roll since i'm sure that is the standard practice at many of the hotels i've stayed in over the years and realize we are talking about the enviroment. I would think that with the notices about turning off the lights and other things most hotel room notices have these days that at least if they do this they donate to local shelters or or other family assist groups. Until now I've never really even thought about it or even noticed, but you can bet that i'll look come Saturday night when I'm in a hotel up in minneapolis. However, the corners must still be turned up.....

There is a distinct difference between this and used soap......

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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 3:17 pm
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I think Randy has a great idea for "replacement" hotels to donate the partially used rolls to needy local charities.

Alternatively, you could take your used roll with you and finish it off at home, offsetting the waste.

Or, you could try and send people on an Outward Bound trip, where they emphasis using tiny amounts of toilet paper each time you need some.

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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 3:25 pm
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Interesting ... my son started a club called Earth Team at his school. They've done a lot of recycling/reuse-type projects around the community and this sounds like a good one for them to get involved in by calling local hotels and seeing if they can't get their half-full rolls to recycle by donating to shelters and such. Thanks for the info. The club he started at his school is actually part of a worldwide organization - maybe he can put the word out and get students all over involved in this.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 3:50 pm
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Up to *** accomodations, used rolls are fine. A nice touch would be to 'peel off the outside layer' and fold the first square to indicate basic hygiene was considered.

In more luxurious hotels, new rolls would be expected. Having used ones reused elsewhere is the environmentally right thing to do. In less affluent countries I have been to, I sometimes get the feeling the housekeeping staff naturally does so...
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 3:58 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by wigstheone:
Alternatively, you could take your used roll with you and finish it off at home, offsetting the waste.</font>

I once did so, after a weekend trip to London while working out of Lille in northern France, but for different reasons; my French aparthotel had awful TP, and the London version seemed oh-so-soft...

Unfortunately, my nearly empty bag was selected for a 'random check' at Waterloo Station upon boarding the Eurostar.

The security agent broke into a large smile while two of my coworkers were hovering around. 'Just in case, uh?', said he. How embarrassing!
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 4:41 pm
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This is penny-wise and pound-foolish. It doesn't make any difference to the environment. The energy used to go to the trouble of doing something with the used rolls (if the housekeeping staff isn't interesting in using it in their own home) offsets the small savings.

Instead of using nuclear energy, we've still got electric power plants burning coal (Bush doesn't give a rip), and you're worried about toilet paper?!

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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 6:04 pm
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I actually never thought about this, but I do not think I would mind if there was a partial roll of toilet paper. I agree that the top layer should be take off and folded, but it seems really wasteful to throw it away.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 6:36 pm
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When I was travelling to India back in the 80's, I always took enough to last for a month, and kept it locked in my suitcase at all times.

Not really on topic, but worth a smile.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 6:47 pm
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In public restrooms we all use the same roll so I guess it would be ok in hotel rooms too. I've never noticed this before. Do all hotels throw out the roll? Even after one night & only a few squares gone? No wonder rates are high!
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 7:54 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by corky:
In public restrooms we all use the same roll so I guess it would be ok in hotel rooms too. </font>
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. We would not think twice about it in a public restroom, so why should it bother us in a hotel room.
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Old Mar 21, 2002 | 9:15 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by JS:
This is penny-wise and pound-foolish. It doesn't make any difference to the environment. The energy used to go to the trouble of doing something with the used rolls (if the housekeeping staff isn't interesting in using it in their own home) offsets the small savings.</font>
While I believe I understand your point, it is not true.

Having done volunteer work for shelters and food depositories, a large bin is placed at the hotel. Used rolls are placed in the bin.
Once the bin nears being full, the shelter comes and picks up the bin in their van. The van is driven by a non-paid volunteer so really the only major cost is the $ for gas.
This bin filled w/50-70 rolls easily offsets the gas $. Sometimes the "used" shampoo is taken as well.

Having "used" rolls from the hotel used this way also prevents them from just filling landfills.


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Old Mar 22, 2002 | 8:00 am
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When I think about real waste, I can only think of cruise ships. I watched a program on cruise ships on TLC a few nights ago and they went into detail about the thousands and thousands of pounds of fruit, bread, chicken, eggs, paper products, etc which go on each ship before each trip. I just kept pondering about the amount of waste each of these city-like vessels creates on each cruise. I wonder if they make any effort to give away excess food supplies to shelters or organizations which cater to the needs of the poor. Sorry I've gone out on a tangent, but this thread got me re-thinking about it.
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Old Mar 22, 2002 | 9:01 am
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I think there is waste everywhere. I remember when I was in high school I worked part time in a bakery. Every morning they would throw away left over donuts,cookies,bread,rolls and cakes. I once said to the manager "Why can't you donate these things to a local shelter or some other place" and his response was "The company does not want to take the chance someone will get sick" so they throw it all away.
It isn't like these things were weeks old, only a day old.
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