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Longhaul morning flights vs overnight (South Asia to Europe)

Old Feb 19, 19, 5:24 pm
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Longhaul morning flights vs overnight (South Asia to Europe)

Hi there and apologies in advance if posted to the wrong forum.

I'm planning on travelling from London to Bangkok.
It will not be a direct flight for various reasons (which are not relevant to this discussion).
Depending on the airline, the flights will total between fifteen and seventeen hours , and the destination is six hours ahead.
This means I will land at a local time that is twenty one to twenty three hours after my departure time.

The flights are either morning departures that arrive between six am and midday, or night departures that land from six pm onwards.

I don't travel longhaul much so not sure what is the better time to get there.
As I see it the benefits of arriving in the morning are you get a full day at the destination but the downside is that it will feel like it's just gone midnight and I will probably feel tired from not having slept much (if at all) and unable to check into a hotel so early in the day.

Benefits of the evening arrival would be that I could probably sleep on the planes (or at least on the second flight anyway) but the downsides would be two days wasted by travel

Can anyone please advise any other pros and cons.
Could you also advise which would be your preferred arrival time and why?

By the way, this is in business class and likely to be with a middle east carrier or Turkish Airlines (but only if they implement their new business class seats in time as I don't like the look of their current 232 layout ).

Thanks in advance.

By the way, the question should be treated as destination agnostic and focused more on longhaul overnight versus daytime with particular attention given to the destination arrival time being upwards of twenty one hours ahead of departure.
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Old Feb 19, 19, 8:53 pm
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Outbound my preference is sleep and ease of getting access. For NYC-LON I would take the often past midnight BA option.

Inbound I focus on impact of adapting back to my standard time zone. ICN-JFK was a day flight where I landed and was back home and into the office by noon or able to push through the day after just a little napping on the 14 hour flight and then crashing for some solid sleep.

Another deciding factor is the airline & plane. I would not want to be in a generally poorer J hard product product (such as BA) with poor entertainment and a poor soft product/food service (something I found BA can do well) for a long daytime flight. If the product is lacking at least I can just sleep as much as possible.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 7:53 am
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If work related trip then it's almost always about landing as early in the day as possible and then straight to work. I've adapted now to be able to lie down and have a nap no matter what time of the day on Long Hauls.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 11:56 am
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I myself hate these noon/early afternoon flights from Europe to BKK / Asia because it is too early for sleeping and when you land in BKK in the early morning you feel very tired (like a zombie!) and most likely you can't check into your hotel before in the afternoon. I promise you, it will feel like a looong first day in BKK; absolutely dreadful IMO. I prefer to depart on one of the evening flights from Europe and arriving in the afternoon the following day in BKK. You are able to sleep much better onboard and there is still plenty of time left on the first day for dinner and going out (no time for sightseeing though). I feel it much easier to adapt to the new time zone when do it this way.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by SK AAR View Post
I myself hate these noon/early afternoon flights from Europe to BKK / Asia because it is too early for sleeping and when you land in BKK in the early morning you feel very tired (like a zombie!) and most likely you can't check into your hotel before in the afternoon. I promise you, it will feel like a looong first day in BKK; absolutely dreadful IMO. I prefer to depart on one of the evening flights from Europe and arriving in the afternoon the following day in BKK. You are able to sleep much better onboard and there is still plenty of time left on the first day for dinner and going out (no time for sightseeing though). I feel it much easier to adapt to the new time zone when do it this way.
Absolutely agree. If direct from London I always aim for ca 6pm. Allows you to eat, watch a film, fitful sleep and then be awake for enough hours to be tired and have a roughly ok night sleep.
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Old Feb 22, 19, 9:32 pm
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Old Feb 22, 19, 9:49 pm
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no direct experience on trips of this nature, but intuitively a sunrise arrival generally makes it difficult to check into a hotel — regardless of whether you’re going to shower and change clothes and head out to do something or just crash
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Old Feb 23, 19, 8:16 am
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I try to sleep as much as I can on all flights ,
but the trick is to get to the airport tired ,

I never take sleeping pills as you never know if your flight will leave on time , or the pills will work as planned.

Bring your own pillow if you are not upfront , even if you leave it on the plane , plus earplugs , eye shades etc
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Old Feb 23, 19, 3:35 pm
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Take off at nightime, arrive at bedtime. That's my holy grail. Take off around 11PM local time. Sleep fitfully for 5-6 hours on the plane. You'll still be tired on the other end, but you'll go to bed at the right time, and the timezone adjustment will be much faster.
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Old Feb 23, 19, 4:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Anna Phor View Post
Take off at nightime, arrive at bedtime. That's my holy grail. Take off around 11PM local time. Sleep fitfully for 5-6 hours on the plane. You'll still be tired on the other end, but you'll go to bed at the right time, and the timezone adjustment will be much faster.
I agree with this.

Also want to say I really admire/envy those of you who can land in the morning and head straight to work.
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Old Feb 24, 19, 3:01 am
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I agree with this.

Also want to say I really admire/envy those of you who can land in the morning and head straight to work.
Combination of business class/empty seats next to you, coffee, and adrenaline. I find that if I get a couple of hours of shuteye, then I can function quite well the first day.

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