Ever told another pax he/she is being offensive?
#46
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Yes I was on BA upper deck Y sitting by the window and there was a young girl who kept kicking my seat and I politely told the Mother of the girl to ask for her to stop kicking. While the girl had a disability but this does not excuse her kicking my seat very hard and I almost hit my head on the IFE screen.
I reported this to the Flight Crew who passed it off. The other passenger got into my business and bashed me. I told him to please mind your own business. He claimed that I was not injured but really my neck was in pain from the sudden force. The girl kicked the upper part of my seat.
So as we are getting off the plane the man would not let me go with my Father and kept telling me how bad I am and how bad it was for me to cause a scene. Now mind you I told the Mother as did my Father more than once politely for her Daughter not to kick us. We gave them more chances and she could have moved but did not.
On the way to the jetbridge I told the Passenger that if you do not stop harassing me I will have US Border Patrol handle this and will press charges for harassment. He said don't threaten me. I said you are not welcome here in America I suggest you take the same bloody plane back home. I mean he was in my personal space. I even told this rude bloke that I will have my solicitor subpoena his information as I wrote down his seat number and have a description and report it to TSA and US Border Patrol and the San Francisco Police as he was getting into my personal space and spit while he was talking and would not let me go with my Father as I wanted to be peaceful. I politely said to the man "Excuse me may I please go with my Father". He said no and blocked me. Blocking my freedom of movement and harassment no good. What a rude Brit.
Nobody can mess with me(:
I told the flight crew to tell this guy to bugger off.
I should have recorded this and put it on Youtube.
Did I handle this good? I sure hope the bloke was scared for his entire trip that he would be stopped by a law enforcement officer for charges of verbal harassment and assault for spitting in my face and get deported back to the UK and with the potential ban of returning. Just imagine he was dressed in a suit so if he was in the middle of a meeting two law enforcement officers arrest him and take him in for harassment and then back to SFO as a criminal.
The scare that I would report it to US Border Patrol, SF Police and TSA was enough to stop him. If he continued his harassing comments I would have done a citizens arrest and asked for the closest US Customs Officer to report to the location and pressed charges. A real FTer at its finest. I was the adult in this situation and the passenger was the child.
Your in America you follow our rules buddy. I diffused the situation without getting physical.
I reported this to the Flight Crew who passed it off. The other passenger got into my business and bashed me. I told him to please mind your own business. He claimed that I was not injured but really my neck was in pain from the sudden force. The girl kicked the upper part of my seat.
So as we are getting off the plane the man would not let me go with my Father and kept telling me how bad I am and how bad it was for me to cause a scene. Now mind you I told the Mother as did my Father more than once politely for her Daughter not to kick us. We gave them more chances and she could have moved but did not.
On the way to the jetbridge I told the Passenger that if you do not stop harassing me I will have US Border Patrol handle this and will press charges for harassment. He said don't threaten me. I said you are not welcome here in America I suggest you take the same bloody plane back home. I mean he was in my personal space. I even told this rude bloke that I will have my solicitor subpoena his information as I wrote down his seat number and have a description and report it to TSA and US Border Patrol and the San Francisco Police as he was getting into my personal space and spit while he was talking and would not let me go with my Father as I wanted to be peaceful. I politely said to the man "Excuse me may I please go with my Father". He said no and blocked me. Blocking my freedom of movement and harassment no good. What a rude Brit.
Nobody can mess with me(:
I told the flight crew to tell this guy to bugger off.
I should have recorded this and put it on Youtube.
Did I handle this good? I sure hope the bloke was scared for his entire trip that he would be stopped by a law enforcement officer for charges of verbal harassment and assault for spitting in my face and get deported back to the UK and with the potential ban of returning. Just imagine he was dressed in a suit so if he was in the middle of a meeting two law enforcement officers arrest him and take him in for harassment and then back to SFO as a criminal.
The scare that I would report it to US Border Patrol, SF Police and TSA was enough to stop him. If he continued his harassing comments I would have done a citizens arrest and asked for the closest US Customs Officer to report to the location and pressed charges. A real FTer at its finest. I was the adult in this situation and the passenger was the child.
Your in America you follow our rules buddy. I diffused the situation without getting physical.
Last edited by danielonn; Mar 16, 2017 at 3:18 pm
#47
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Yes I was on BA upper deck Y sitting by the window and there was a young girl who kept kicking my seat and I politely told the Mother of the girl to ask for her to stop kicking. While the girl had a disability but this does not excuse her kicking my seat very hard and I almost hit my head on the IFE screen.
I reported this to the Flight Crew who passed it off. The other passenger got into my business and bashed me. I told him to please mind your own business. He claimed that I was not injured but really my neck was in pain from the sudden force. The girl kicked the upper part of my seat.
So as we are getting off the plane the man would not let me go with my Father and kept telling me how bad I am and how bad it was for me to cause a scene. Now mind you I told the Mother as did my Father more than once politely for her Daughter not to kick us. We gave them more chances and she could have moved but did not.
On the way to the jetbridge I told the Passenger that if you do not stop harassing me I will have US Border Patrol handle this and will press charges for harassment. He said don't threaten me. I said you are not welcome here in America I suggest you take the same bloody plane back home. I mean he was in my personal space. I even told this rude bloke that I will have my solicitor subpoena his information as I wrote down his seat number and have a description and report it to TSA and US Border Patrol and the San Francisco Police as he was getting into my personal space and spit while he was talking and would not let me go with my Father as I wanted to be peaceful. I politely said to the man "Excuse me may I please go with my Father". He said no and blocked me. Blocking my freedom of movement and harassment no good. What a rude Brit.
Nobody can mess with me(:
I told the flight crew to tell this guy to bugger off.
I should have recorded this and put it on Youtube.
Did I handle this good? I sure hope the bloke was scared for his entire trip that he would be stopped by a law enforcement officer for charges of verbal harassment and assault for spitting in my face and get deported back to the UK and with the potential ban of returning. Just imagine he was dressed in a suit so if he was in the middle of a meeting two law enforcement officers arrest him and take him in for harassment and then back to SFO as a criminal.
The scare that I would report it to US Border Patrol, SF Police and TSA was enough to stop him. If he continued his harassing comments I would have done a citizens arrest and asked for the closest US Customs Officer to report to the location and pressed charges. A real FTer at its finest. I was the adult in this situation and the passenger was the child.
Your in America you follow our rules buddy. I diffused the situation without getting physical.
I reported this to the Flight Crew who passed it off. The other passenger got into my business and bashed me. I told him to please mind your own business. He claimed that I was not injured but really my neck was in pain from the sudden force. The girl kicked the upper part of my seat.
So as we are getting off the plane the man would not let me go with my Father and kept telling me how bad I am and how bad it was for me to cause a scene. Now mind you I told the Mother as did my Father more than once politely for her Daughter not to kick us. We gave them more chances and she could have moved but did not.
On the way to the jetbridge I told the Passenger that if you do not stop harassing me I will have US Border Patrol handle this and will press charges for harassment. He said don't threaten me. I said you are not welcome here in America I suggest you take the same bloody plane back home. I mean he was in my personal space. I even told this rude bloke that I will have my solicitor subpoena his information as I wrote down his seat number and have a description and report it to TSA and US Border Patrol and the San Francisco Police as he was getting into my personal space and spit while he was talking and would not let me go with my Father as I wanted to be peaceful. I politely said to the man "Excuse me may I please go with my Father". He said no and blocked me. Blocking my freedom of movement and harassment no good. What a rude Brit.
Nobody can mess with me(:
I told the flight crew to tell this guy to bugger off.
I should have recorded this and put it on Youtube.
Did I handle this good? I sure hope the bloke was scared for his entire trip that he would be stopped by a law enforcement officer for charges of verbal harassment and assault for spitting in my face and get deported back to the UK and with the potential ban of returning. Just imagine he was dressed in a suit so if he was in the middle of a meeting two law enforcement officers arrest him and take him in for harassment and then back to SFO as a criminal.
The scare that I would report it to US Border Patrol, SF Police and TSA was enough to stop him. If he continued his harassing comments I would have done a citizens arrest and asked for the closest US Customs Officer to report to the location and pressed charges. A real FTer at its finest. I was the adult in this situation and the passenger was the child.
Your in America you follow our rules buddy. I diffused the situation without getting physical.
#49
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Posts: 4,286
That's pretty awful. I don't see that he broke any laws. He may have annoyed you, but it doesn't sound like an assault. It also seems like the annoyance was mutual.
If you are being kicked by a child with a disability and the parent isn't doing anything about it, bring it up with the flight crew - very, very politely and discretely - and even see if you could move.
Standing in someone's way isn't illegal. I walk around a city often during the week, I almost wish people could get tickets for being in the way.
If you are being kicked by a child with a disability and the parent isn't doing anything about it, bring it up with the flight crew - very, very politely and discretely - and even see if you could move.
Standing in someone's way isn't illegal. I walk around a city often during the week, I almost wish people could get tickets for being in the way.
#50
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Traveling the World
Posts: 6,075
Good god, before making legal threats you really should learn something about the law in the United States. Starting with the fact that if you live in the United States, you do not have a solicitor unless you have a personal salesperson, which isn't much of a threat, or unless you are a government agency. I'm sorry, but you don't come off as the adult in this situation (particularly if you're calling on your dad to back you up), but rather as someone who's using big words in a context you do not understand.
#51
Join Date: Jan 2013
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How old are you? 12? "Did I handle this good?" No, you didn't. Perhaps it's your writing style but if you behaved true to what you've written, you made an unpleasant situation worse with your childish behaviour and silly threats.
#52
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I am quite appalled at this entire story. I really hope it's just trolling as I can't believe anyone would behave so badly yet think they've done nothing wrong. It's rare to take the side of the seat-kicker on a plane but in this case they seem to be the lesser of the two evils.
#54
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Smart in terms of human evolution, too...you do not want to start serious altercation unless life and the limb are in danger. ^
#55
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: KSUX
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Only once on a flight from ORD to PHX. Right as we started the takeoff roll the girl behind me started kicking the back of my seat. I figured she was just scared and ignored it except 20 minutes into the flight she was still doing it. I turned around and politely said "You're not going to kick the back of my seat all the way to Phoenix are you?" Her mom gave her the "knock it off NOW!" look and that was the end of it. The girl was probably 7 or 8 so she knew better than to be doing that.
#56
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Only once on a flight from ORD to PHX. Right as we started the takeoff roll the girl behind me started kicking the back of my seat. I figured she was just scared and ignored it except 20 minutes into the flight she was still doing it. I turned around and politely said "You're not going to kick the back of my seat all the way to Phoenix are you?" Her mom gave her the "knock it off NOW!" look and that was the end of it. The girl was probably 7 or 8 so she knew better than to be doing that.
My most recent experience was on a west coast flight out of SEA. Parents behind us had a lap infant who must have been just under the 24 month requirement. The kid was bouncing and playing and frequently hitting my wife's seat and it was even jolting my seat as well. My wife tried to just ignore it much of the flight but at one point (just as we stared descending) the seat really slammed. I turned around and see the mom is playing some kind of "patty cake" game with the kid and the kid is bouncing back and forth into the seat and my wife finally had enough and while not nasty, said in a stern tone that the kid kept hitting her seat and asked them to stop. It did finally cease from there though during deplaning the dad gave us a really nasty look as he stood up in the aisle to get his things. I know, how awful that people don't want their seat kicked during a flight.
Maybe a new rule should be that parents have to sit IN FRONT OF their own kids on planes so that kids kick their parents' seats.
#57
Join Date: Sep 2010
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I was surprised mom gave her "the look" as well but it annoyed me that she even let it go on that long. I guess having 15+ years of retail under my belt at the time helped since I've gotten pretty good at dealing with misbehaving kids. I've found in 95% of cases when dealing with kids smiling and using a cheery voice will usually get what you want. Of course if mom or dad adds their two cents in who knows what'll happen.
#58
Join Date: Jan 2015
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In the UK we understand the word "lawyer" just fine. If you were trying to use UK English you failed as we would never use the word "subpoena" and certainly never in the context of "I will have my solicitor subpoena his information". This is wrong in so many ways.
I am quite appalled at this entire story. I really hope it's just trolling as I can't believe anyone would behave so badly yet think they've done nothing wrong. It's rare to take the side of the seat-kicker on a plane but in this case they seem to be the lesser of the two evils.
I am quite appalled at this entire story. I really hope it's just trolling as I can't believe anyone would behave so badly yet think they've done nothing wrong. It's rare to take the side of the seat-kicker on a plane but in this case they seem to be the lesser of the two evils.
#59
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 411
Worked for me once at the theater. We were watching a musical and the three 20 somethings in the row to the left of us were talking and singing along with the music. I leaned over and "Shhhhushhed" them...one of them leaned forward and gave me a dirty look so I said, "Shut the .... up!" none of them said another word the rest of the show.
#60
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Yes I was on BA upper deck Y sitting by the window and there was a young girl who kept kicking my seat and I politely told the Mother of the girl to ask for her to stop kicking. While the girl had a disability but this does not excuse her kicking my seat very hard and I almost hit my head on the IFE screen.
I reported this to the Flight Crew who passed it off. The other passenger got into my business and bashed me. I told him to please mind your own business. He claimed that I was not injured but really my neck was in pain from the sudden force. The girl kicked the upper part of my seat.
So as we are getting off the plane the man would not let me go with my Father and kept telling me how bad I am and how bad it was for me to cause a scene. Now mind you I told the Mother as did my Father more than once politely for her Daughter not to kick us. We gave them more chances and she could have moved but did not.
On the way to the jetbridge I told the Passenger that if you do not stop harassing me I will have US Border Patrol handle this and will press charges for harassment. He said don't threaten me. I said you are not welcome here in America I suggest you take the same bloody plane back home. I mean he was in my personal space. I even told this rude bloke that I will have my solicitor subpoena his information as I wrote down his seat number and have a description and report it to TSA and US Border Patrol and the San Francisco Police as he was getting into my personal space and spit while he was talking and would not let me go with my Father as I wanted to be peaceful. I politely said to the man "Excuse me may I please go with my Father". He said no and blocked me. Blocking my freedom of movement and harassment no good. What a rude Brit.
Nobody can mess with me(:
I told the flight crew to tell this guy to bugger off.
I should have recorded this and put it on Youtube.
Did I handle this good? I sure hope the bloke was scared for his entire trip that he would be stopped by a law enforcement officer for charges of verbal harassment and assault for spitting in my face and get deported back to the UK and with the potential ban of returning. Just imagine he was dressed in a suit so if he was in the middle of a meeting two law enforcement officers arrest him and take him in for harassment and then back to SFO as a criminal.
The scare that I would report it to US Border Patrol, SF Police and TSA was enough to stop him. If he continued his harassing comments I would have done a citizens arrest and asked for the closest US Customs Officer to report to the location and pressed charges. A real FTer at its finest. I was the adult in this situation and the passenger was the child.
Your in America you follow our rules buddy. I diffused the situation without getting physical.
I reported this to the Flight Crew who passed it off. The other passenger got into my business and bashed me. I told him to please mind your own business. He claimed that I was not injured but really my neck was in pain from the sudden force. The girl kicked the upper part of my seat.
So as we are getting off the plane the man would not let me go with my Father and kept telling me how bad I am and how bad it was for me to cause a scene. Now mind you I told the Mother as did my Father more than once politely for her Daughter not to kick us. We gave them more chances and she could have moved but did not.
On the way to the jetbridge I told the Passenger that if you do not stop harassing me I will have US Border Patrol handle this and will press charges for harassment. He said don't threaten me. I said you are not welcome here in America I suggest you take the same bloody plane back home. I mean he was in my personal space. I even told this rude bloke that I will have my solicitor subpoena his information as I wrote down his seat number and have a description and report it to TSA and US Border Patrol and the San Francisco Police as he was getting into my personal space and spit while he was talking and would not let me go with my Father as I wanted to be peaceful. I politely said to the man "Excuse me may I please go with my Father". He said no and blocked me. Blocking my freedom of movement and harassment no good. What a rude Brit.
Nobody can mess with me(:
I told the flight crew to tell this guy to bugger off.
I should have recorded this and put it on Youtube.
Did I handle this good? I sure hope the bloke was scared for his entire trip that he would be stopped by a law enforcement officer for charges of verbal harassment and assault for spitting in my face and get deported back to the UK and with the potential ban of returning. Just imagine he was dressed in a suit so if he was in the middle of a meeting two law enforcement officers arrest him and take him in for harassment and then back to SFO as a criminal.
The scare that I would report it to US Border Patrol, SF Police and TSA was enough to stop him. If he continued his harassing comments I would have done a citizens arrest and asked for the closest US Customs Officer to report to the location and pressed charges. A real FTer at its finest. I was the adult in this situation and the passenger was the child.
Your in America you follow our rules buddy. I diffused the situation without getting physical.