Ever told another pax he/she is being offensive?
#16
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I wouldn't go with that. If someone asked me kindly to amend any behavior that was bothering them, I would of course be courteous and do so, but if someone said that to me, I just might take umbrage to it...
#17
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I must be some kind of wuss. Basically, I never confront people for this. I just sit there and let my blood pressure rise.
On a Eurostar some time ago, two drunken guys in the seats in front of me were talking about their sexual exploits. One was mocking the other for not taking advantage of an opportunity to cheat on his wife. They were using adult language to discuss specific sex acts. It was inappropriate. It was loud. I hoped they'd tire of the topic, but they basically kept it up for the whole journey from Paris to London. Perhaps I should have stepped up to these drunks. In retrospect, everyone else in the car would have been on my side.
On a flight from LHR to MIA earlier this year, I was in an exit row. The person across the aisle and behind me decided to say very loudly at the start of the safety demonstration "What's the point? If this thing goes down, we're all dead anyway, right?" I looked at the FA and raised my eyebrows in horror. She suggested that I move to the other end of my row. I did so, but even after moving four seats away, and putting in earplugs, I could still hear every inane comment he was making to his neighbor throughout just about the entire flight (and it's a long flight). His favorite topic of conversation seemed to be the cost of various items in foreign countries vs. in the USA. How much is a gallon of gas? Gee. How much is a beer? Wow. Why do they tax things so much? Uhuh. His neighbor had an appropriate "indoor voice" that I could not hear through my ear plugs. I told myself that it was better than hearing him talking about airplanes crashing, so I sat and stewed.
Perhaps I give people the benefit of the doubt, or perhaps I hope that they'll tire, or perhaps I fear that confronting them will make a bad situation worse. I have started to think that an early intervention is probably wise - but then I feel like the guy who tells the other cinema goers to be quiet during the commercials. I hate that guy.
On a Eurostar some time ago, two drunken guys in the seats in front of me were talking about their sexual exploits. One was mocking the other for not taking advantage of an opportunity to cheat on his wife. They were using adult language to discuss specific sex acts. It was inappropriate. It was loud. I hoped they'd tire of the topic, but they basically kept it up for the whole journey from Paris to London. Perhaps I should have stepped up to these drunks. In retrospect, everyone else in the car would have been on my side.
On a flight from LHR to MIA earlier this year, I was in an exit row. The person across the aisle and behind me decided to say very loudly at the start of the safety demonstration "What's the point? If this thing goes down, we're all dead anyway, right?" I looked at the FA and raised my eyebrows in horror. She suggested that I move to the other end of my row. I did so, but even after moving four seats away, and putting in earplugs, I could still hear every inane comment he was making to his neighbor throughout just about the entire flight (and it's a long flight). His favorite topic of conversation seemed to be the cost of various items in foreign countries vs. in the USA. How much is a gallon of gas? Gee. How much is a beer? Wow. Why do they tax things so much? Uhuh. His neighbor had an appropriate "indoor voice" that I could not hear through my ear plugs. I told myself that it was better than hearing him talking about airplanes crashing, so I sat and stewed.
Perhaps I give people the benefit of the doubt, or perhaps I hope that they'll tire, or perhaps I fear that confronting them will make a bad situation worse. I have started to think that an early intervention is probably wise - but then I feel like the guy who tells the other cinema goers to be quiet during the commercials. I hate that guy.
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#18
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Yes I told an older woman who was berating the cabin crew loudly and at length about a delay on the flight. Something wasn't quite right on the pre flight check and the captain had quite rightly called for engineering to sort it out and it delayed us by an hour or so... the old bag whinged and moaned at and about the cabin crew for the duration of the delay, all through the flight and again on landing..... it was just non stop.
When I strod to get my bag down, i told her in no uncertain terms that she had said enough on the matter, and that we were ALL inconvenienced by the delay, not just her, and that it was not the cabin crews fault....
She went to say something back to me and I simply told her that I had heard enough from her and had no interest in what she had to say as I was sick and tired of the sound of her voice.... she was left catching flies while the passengers round me quietly said "well said!" to me.
She tried to catch up with me at the carousel to tell me I was rude, and I just said the only person who had displayed questionable behaviour on the whole flight was her..... and walked off with my luggage!
When I strod to get my bag down, i told her in no uncertain terms that she had said enough on the matter, and that we were ALL inconvenienced by the delay, not just her, and that it was not the cabin crews fault....
She went to say something back to me and I simply told her that I had heard enough from her and had no interest in what she had to say as I was sick and tired of the sound of her voice.... she was left catching flies while the passengers round me quietly said "well said!" to me.
She tried to catch up with me at the carousel to tell me I was rude, and I just said the only person who had displayed questionable behaviour on the whole flight was her..... and walked off with my luggage!
#20
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Not an intentional offensive situation, but many years ago I was coming home on a friday from a long work week trip on the now defunct YX (Midwest Airlines). A family boarded with several kids and one of their sons, 6-7 y.o. ended up on the aisle next to me. Good kid, very bright, but immediately started talking my arm off, non-stop. I just wanted my vodka soda and chill. At the time, YX had individual entertainment players and headsets for an extra charge. When the FA came by, I rented one for the kid, turned to "Dad" who was sitting behind us with the boy's sister, asked o.k.? He smiled knowingly yes. I tuned it to the kids cartoon selections. The little guy, was thrilled, and quiet the whole flight. 10 bucks, as I recall, well spent.
#21
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If someone is truly obnoxious, another passenger speaking to them has a good chance of not turning out well. I'm certainly not going to argue with another passenger. While judgment is called for, I think this is FA's business, and I would not hesitate to call (or go to) them and ask them to handle it.
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Only once with two parents who wouldn't control their brat. I politely asked them to stop him from kicking my seat. When he continued I asked again in a manner that was neither polite or repeatable here. They kept him under control for the rest of the flight. The next step was the call button.
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The challenge with telling someone you consider their behavior offensive is that they might take it as an attack and escalate the situation.
Don't believe me?
Just look upthread. There are already at least two posts endorsing physical retaliation against a person who's complained about someone's behavior.
Don't believe me?
Just look upthread. There are already at least two posts endorsing physical retaliation against a person who's complained about someone's behavior.
#26
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Just after 9/11 i flew out of Sydney. Lots of double screening. At the departure gate a guy wss complaining about having to remove his shoes again and was being a big jerk. I said.. shut up and stop complaining and also think of what might happen if shoes aren't checked. He took his off immediately for screening.
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It wouldn't happen. If he doesn't have what it takes to keep his own child under control there is zero likelihood of him pouring soda over a complete stranger. He'd fantasize about it but never do it.
#28
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The challenge with telling someone you consider their behavior offensive is that they might take it as an attack and escalate the situation.
Don't believe me?
Just look upthread. There are already at least two posts endorsing physical retaliation against a person who's complained about someone's behavior.
Don't believe me?
Just look upthread. There are already at least two posts endorsing physical retaliation against a person who's complained about someone's behavior.
#30
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99% of people will probably comply with what you request if polite. Its the 1% that end up being crazy that make folks decide to not say anything.